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Tell the wife to use telegram or another messaging client. There are plenty of perfectly good alternatives to imessages.
For better or worse you happen to be using the one messaging app that is broadly agreed to be worse than iMessage.
Signal and Telegram are far superior, even putting aside the most glaring flaws of the other two.
Signal/Telegram are not very common where I’m at. I have Signal, nobody in my contacts does.
I've successfully converted a spouse, which I don't think is out of the question w.r.t who I replied to.
I've also converted my main friend group, but appreciate that's insurmountable for a lot of people - genuinely, people hate change after all. I'm lucky to have a lot of friends who work in tech and are receptive to trying new things.
Fair enough. It's kind of an oxymoron to worry about the trust of a given 3rd party messaging app while using products from a known, wide scale, repeated privacy intruder like Meta, but you have what you need in terms of convenience so I won't make a further case for an alternative.
I'd say Telegram isn't superior. It's default encryption is nowhere near iMessage.
And if you step up the encryption, you lose group chats.
For it's flaws, iMessage is a very good solution, one that Signal was emulating for a while.
I'm not criticising the UX of iMessage for Apple to Apple comms. It's solid, and was leader-in-class for a very long time.
Why messenger of all things. That's the worst one.
I literally started being the dick who says, "Message me via Signal or fuck off."
Why should they be forced to interop? That'll just reduce it to the lowest commend denominator. What impetus would any of them have for investing in making a better system if everyone can use their work?
We have choices. We don't have to use iMessage, or Beeper. We can use other messengers.
Forcing interop means all messengers will function the same... Again at the LCD level.
Plus different messengers have different capabilities, different use-cases.
Frankly I don't even want to use SMS at all, and haven't wanted to for 10 years. I want a messenger that's independent of my mobile device that I can simply sign into just about anywhere. Kind of like instant messengers were in the late 90's (which often used things like XMPP).
Ten+ years ago I was running instant messengers on Android. Pidgin, Trillian, etc, logging in to multiple messengers. That should've been the path forward, but people couldn't be bothered because SMS was free, native, and "good enough" (in their minds).
And yet back then any conversations I had on any device showed up on all devices. With no dependence on my SIM or phone hardware ID.
>"Interop bad"
>using lemmy
How else do you make them interop, other than by finding a common mapping?
Why would any company map their extended or unique elements, which they developed, to meet government regs?
They won't, they'll drop to the least effort required to get the regulators off their backs.
I have a choice. Apple users have a choice. There are plenty of other messenging systems out there.
MS Teams
Skype
Element
SimpleX
Signal
Telegram
Wire
Wiremin
Litewire
Discord
Conversations
Snikket
Briar
Zello
TwinMe
Tox
Keybase
Threema
Whatsapp
Jami
XMPP (which some listed use)
Just go to Wikipedia for a long list of different messengers and their capabilities.
I prefer Signal to telegram and it's been amazing the whole time I've used it
Now if I could just convince more people I know to switch to it that'd be great
The better option is to push Google and Apple to adopt a completely open version of RCS with end to end encryption so that regardless of whatever app someone is using, you know for a fact that they can receive your message.
The broken messaging ecosystem between WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, and others is a shit sandwich.
People would lose their minds if email was the same way.
That doesn’t solve the interoperability problem. You can’t guarantee who has what messaging app. You shouldn’t need a 3rd party app for basic functionality, anyway.
I like Signal better than my standard android SMS app. I can send more pictures at a time, video at high quality, and it does groups well.
Right, right.
Do you hear yourself?