If Apple doubts the security and privacy of our app, we’re willing to share the entire Beeper Mini codebase with a mutually agreed upon 3rd party security research firm.
What a beautiful way to call out Apple's bs.
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I can’t see Apple letting this ride
Which is rich considering they reverse-engineered MS Office formats to get their office suite to work
Is that true? I thought the specs were publicly available
AFAIK only the "new" formats are (for the basic apps, the ones ending on x). Apple's office suite is much older than those.
I think most if not all of those formats are plaintext? Open a .doc and it’s a heap of garbage XML-like soup.
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Well they've blocked it once. It'll be interesting to watch. Not sure of the legalities. Hard to say.
I'm still unclear on why this whole thing is so important that it's worth putting time and money into finding a solution for the color of word bubbles.
Edit: all this time I thought it was just an argument over bubble colors. But no, it's also potato quality videos and pictures ruining every group message with both Apple and Android in the mix.
I'm still unclear why this gets asked every post unless people keep ignoring the answers.
I have a friend who use iMessage on their Mac and will check that more often than their phone. If I text them during work hours, it'll be hours before hearing back from them. Turns out, from what I'm told, iMessage on Mac has a setting to not show SMS on the desktop, so my messages were only going to their phone, which wasn't checked as frequently. I guess when you enable SMS, notifications get messed up, and read SMS on your iPhone aren't synced, and show up as unread (or something like that). In anycase, SMS got turned off at some point.
Obviously, none of this is really my problem, but it's frustrating, more than just the color of the bubbles. The Network effect is real, and asking someone to switch to a new platform is not as easy as it sounds.
If they enable iCloud sync for messages it will update everywhere, they can also make sure they have Text Message Forwarding selected on their phone. They’ll get the messages in a timely manner (I get mine at the exact same time as my phone) and read messages will be reflected in all locations. I’ve been using iMessage on a Mac, iPad, and iPhone in some combination or other since the feature was offered, and the only issue I’ve ever had with sync was when I did a clean setup on a new Mac instead of a setup from backup. The above options weren’t selected.
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I'm not either. considering that over 70% of the world is on android, you'd think the compatibility problem would be laid on Apple and not 3rd party applications.
70% of the world is using Google and Apple is giving Google the middle finger.
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To be fair, I am using Google (via Android) and am also giving Google (Chrome) the middle finger.
iMessage lock in is almost exclusively a US problem (maybe EU, but i have no experience living there so i'm not sure). I'm from Malaysia and 99% of communication here is done through whatsapp and I know this is true for many other countries too. Line is frequently used in korea, Wechat in china, etc. It was only when I moved to the US that I used iMessage in any serious capacity
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Group chat. You can’t have a properly working group chat if there’s an android in the mix.
Now that people bring up group chat, I realized that the opposite is also true. One apple in the mix will ruin all the videos in a group chat.
Most Android phones use RCS now but iPhone doesn't, so with an iPhone in the chat it will also need to resort to sending SMS/MMS instead
Group chat. You can’t have a properly working group chat if there’s ~~an android~~ SMS in the mix.
This is by Apple's design choice, not because Android.
Android can send as high a quality over SMS/MMS as the network will allow. iPhone can't.
In Apple's defense, you'd still lose all the iMessage features when SMS is involved, because what else are you going to do when one participant doesn't have iMessage? You'll fallback to the lowest common mechanism.
You can’t have a properly working group chat if there’s ~~an android~~ SMS in the mix.
So anything that isn't iOS/iMessage.
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The reason is that if they have a solution, people will pay for it, and thus they'll make money.
It’s really about interoperability of systems, protocols, services, and clients. Since we’re both using Lemmy I assume we both understand at least a bit about the significance of interoperability.
I think it’s a shame that effort is put in to reverse engineering.
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Which is funny considering that apples current implementation is less secure because sending the non-imessage users from iMessage breaks the encryption, meaning everything sent to a non-imessage recipient is sent in plain text.
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I mean I applaud the efforts but if you can convince your friends a family to use Signal, that's way better
My dad texts. I've mentioned we could share HD videos and Photos over something like signal. He refused. RCS was a godsend for texting him. Making people change their ways isn't feasible, even if you're OK with using like 5 different texting apps.
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Underlying implementation already is. You can connect to iMessage and send and receive messages using the python implementation on your PC if you want.
Here is their POC in Python:https://github.com/JJTech0130/pypush
And their article explaining it: https://blog.beeper.com/p/how-beeper-mini-works
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