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Does nobody know that all the grandparents were in their ninties?
Sure - but if Joe's got enough energy to fuck around in a chocolate factory with his grandson, then he's got enough energy to work part-time to help his desperately poor family
Have you ever actually met someone that old? Mustering up a whole day's worth of energy can take them out for the rest of the month.
Yeah, I have - and the ones that could walk were constantly having to sit down, not doing bloody jigs like Joe did upon learning about the Golden Ticket.
Grandpa Joe has significantly more energy than his peers, that much I can tell - and the fact he let his poor family suffer rather than put that energy to use working even just a day a week is part of why I hate Grandpa Joe
My grandma could have mustered a single jig and one day of walking in her 90s. She definitely would not have been able to work a part time job. I think you just want an excuse to hate grandpa Joe, so you invent one even though on proper scrutiny it doesn't hold up to reality. But you don't need to justify hating someone, you're allowed to just hate them for no good reason. Instead of throwing all old people under the bus for the sake of hating Joe, just let the hate flow through you without needing to find a reason for it.
I have already prefaced in another reply that this Grandpa Joe hate isn't that serious, it's poking fun at the fact he goes from bed-bound to suddenly facing and jiving as though it were nothing...
Having said that, even if he couldn't work part time, if he isn't at least as bed-bound as the others he could at least help out around the house so Mum can go work so they don't have to eat cabbage soup every night, rather than dedicating her life to caring for a bed's worth of old people.
I'm aware, my grandpa Joe defence isn't that serious either lol.
Maybe he offered to help but the family said no? I know my grandma sometimes grumbled about her kids and grandkids never letting her do anything cause they were always like "it's alright grandma we can do it for you". Maybe grandpa Joe was being forced to stay in bed by rhe family because of his age and he saw the factory trip as a chance to finally get out of bed for a day? Perhaps poor grandpa Joe is simply misunderstood.
You can really help a household by doing very little. Even if all you are capable of is cleaning the table once a day that is just one more thing no one else has to do. My youngest child can now finally put her own clothing away if I put it in her room. Which saves me about 30 minutes or so a week. Basically yes you are right. Joe doesn't have to be pulling a plow but if he can do literally anything, which he can, he can help.
So fuck him and fuck the transformative power of dreams bullshit
You do have a point. My wife has a patient who is 95 and the fact that she can walk to the store, buy eggs, bring them home, and cook them is very impressive.
That's not really how that works
One day of basically just walking around like a tourist isn't quite the same as a 9-5 at even low intensity jobs
Also, he's probably not able to find work, it's the 60s-70s in the UK and Joe only ever worked at Wonka's, odds are he doesn't have the qualifications to work for anyone else, and anyone he might be able to are probably covered by the VERY intense NC order Wonka probably made his workers sign after the breach of his IP.
In the United Kingdom, and therefore Wales, where Roald Dahl is from had an old age pension for all of Dahl's life. So I don't think forcing old people to work to death is the point. Blaming old pension accessible people for not working is the same as blaming children for not working in my opinion.
They've probably worked all their life and paid taxes for it. They deserve the rest.
How does that make sense? People back then had a kid in their teens.