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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Most importantly. Where the fuck are renters supposed to charge these fucking things?

This is why mass EV adoption is not going to happen. Good luck convincing landlords to install chargers.

I’m not dicking around for 2 hours at a station every week waiting for a charge, let alone multiple times a week.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At home? If you drive less than 30mi a day on average, you can plug into a normal wall outlet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you do that if you live on the 20th floor?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends where you park, are there wall outlets by the elevators in parking garages?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not everyone can afford a place in a parking garage. For example, in my building they were only affordable for those who bought before the construction was complete, and expensive on secondary market.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So it is street or lot parking then? If lot parking, there might be a building nearby with an outdoor outlet that one could see about running power from. There are devices that can monitor the power draw to reimburse. I realize it isn't as easy for EVs for everyone, but electrical power is everywhere. Of course public transit is better, but if that's not an option, look into how to get power to a parking spot so we can stop using gas.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is why mass EV adoption is not going to happen. Good luck convincing landlords to install chargers.

If you install a charger, you will get a 25% tax cut for the next 5 years, if not you will get a 25% tax increase for the next 5 years.

Seems pretty convincing to me ;-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And even if there are chargers installed around the building, not everyone can park directly next to their home anyway. Our building has several hundred flats yet only a couple dozen parking spots around it. Sure, far from everyone there has cars at all, and some can afford a place in the underground parking, but that still leaves a lot of people to park on the streets around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Certainly something that needs to be addressed by them, or manufacturers will not be able to sell them. They will be punished unless they help with solutions.

I’ve seen several possibilities floated around here, so we have 12 years to build out one or more of them

  • landlords with off street parking can be incented or required to provide chargers, by zoning changes. Also at some point they won’t be able to find tenants unless they do
  • faster batteries will help reduce the wait time if you visit a supercharger once a week. It seems like we’re already down to half an hour to charge 5%—>80%
  • slow chargers at every destination (work, shops, restaurants) can keep you always topped off cheaply and without waiting
  • some street parking is conducive to charging, such as with pre-existing streetlight wiring
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Look at Dundee for your answers.