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Let me ask all you Hamas apologists a simple question, why won't the arab brothers next door to the Palestinians allow them refuge in Egypt?
Wow IDF goes hard on lemmy lately.
Really? IMHO neither IDF or MOSSAD are doing their jobs. There can be some 11d chess they are playing but the fact is, HAMAS or Stormfront doesn't need their own social media while here exists,
The dude I replied to is openly calling for ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and receiving 11 upvotes. The amount of IDF troll accounts have increased over the last two weeks. This looks like a targeted campaign. I hope the moderators can get a grip and ban these people.
In the last month there's been a deluge of new accounts that are relay posts for right wing/Ruzzian disinformation.
Can I assume you are saying - since other countries refuse to accept them, it must be acceptable to commit genocide? How do you feel about the voyage of the damned (1939), where 937 mostly Jewish refugees were turned away in the Americas? All had to return to Europe, 255 died in the war, many in the death camps.
I am asking specifically about one country and that is one with a shared border. The rest of your assumption is in your imagination.
Thanks for the clarification. So it needs to be a neighbouring country which refuses entry. I wasn't able to find any evidence of neighbours of Nazi Germany preventing entry to Jewish refugees but it seems odd all these desperate Jews would travel across the Atlantic to Cuba in the hopes of getting into USA. Couldn't they go to Western Europe, be safe then continue to USA? Unless they were officially/unofficially not welcomed. All in my head and the Holocaust didn't happen in 1939 so nothing to worry about.
You are a special type, aren't you? The Nazis had the Jews captive, but Hamas supposedly doesn't. Two different things. nice try though.
That ship left from Hamburg Germany. And why would Hamas need to keep Gazans captive in the largest open air prison in the world, maintained by Israel.
let's see if I understand this. The Gaza Strip is bordered by Israel on two sides, Egypt on one side, and the Mediterranean on the last side. Yet almighty Israel is the prison keeper? Surely you jest.
Yes and here is an article explaining why. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/menasource/gaza-israel-occupied-international-law/
An occupation does not equal a prison. Nice try though.
The only way to replace apartheid is with a democratic system.
INTERVIEW: Ilan Pappé: How Israel turned Palestine into the biggest prison on earth
Israel controls all aspects of movement, Water, Air space, Sea access, borders, Imports (food and building supplies), Labor exploitation, and maintain the apartheid through violence
It is absolutely an open air prison, except you get in just by being born inside the OPTs with the only court you'll ever see being a military court where even children can be taken from their families indefinitely with administrative detention
Can they travel freely? Didn't Israel bomb their only civilian airport years ago? Doesn't Israel block their sea access too?
Lol that these Hamas apologists can't make a single argument for their position based on it's own merits. Have to resort to facetious Nazi comparisons which will never convince anyone.
Why should Palestinians leave the land they've been living on for centuries and become displaced refugees in another country?
Seems that most Arab countries aim for two things
Because Egypt is a dictatorship that doesn’t care about Egyptians or Palestinians. The general sisi accepted billions of dollars in bribes and therefore does what the US and Saudi want. (Saudi doesn’t like Hamas because they view it as related to Muslim Brotherhood and thus a threat to their monarchy)
But nice try trying to engage in Whataboutism.
Do you realise that the Nazis used the same wording for jewish people ? Asking other countries to take jewish people as refugees to get them out of Nazi controlled territories. Are you seriously using the same tactic as the Nazis right now to kick Palestinians out of their homes ?
If I was either in Gaza or in Israel you might have a point but I'm here on Lemmy asking a question and you are using your imagination on overdrive.
Yeah because the way you asked your question wasnt indicative at all. " Let me ask you hamas apologists" etc... you're just asking a question right ?
Asking that in that manner and using the same questions the Nazis used to get rid of jewish people from the lands they occupied, the same way israeli politicians are asking to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians should give you pause at least.
Am I to shut my mouth while these guys freely defend Hamas? Isn't that what you are accusing Israel of doing to the Palestinians?
Criticizing Israel's actions does not automatically equal defending Hamas. This is not a zero sum game.
There are actual defenders of Hamas here. Open your eyes and you will see. Or keep them closed if you prefer.
My eyes are open. Are yours?
What a question to ask in the context of a genocide.
I'm sure you've got some interesting notions - why don't they?
I'm guessing it's the Palestinians' fault they're being genocided and can't be displaced into Egypt?
Because they don't want to deal with a refuge crisis.
Who is a Hamas apologist ?
You haven't seen any posts here defending Hamas?
Nope
You're not looking are you?
I'm trying my best to be objective, and while I do admit I am not without fault, I have not seen what you are referring to. Are you sure you're not misattributing anything? Sympathy for Palestine does not equal defending Hamas' actions. I have yet to see a single post defending Hamas or their actions on Lemmy. I have, however, seen a lot of condemnation of Israel's actions. Maybe I am mistaken, but I believe you are conflating the two.
Hasbara
Even if there were Hamas apologists here (there aren't), what does that have to do with Gazan civilians?
This dude goes around, and picks fights to feel something.
Don't bother trying cause everyone else is emotional but him and he gets giddy to point it out. Basic abuser who likes the thrill of the fight and feeling superior.
How am I supporting anything? It's people with mouths like this that are causing problems.
You defend a country that the ICJ has found to be conducting a plausible genocide. Makes you a genocide supporter.
How does taking in refugees make egypt complicit in the thing the refugees are running from? Was belgium complicit in the holocaust for taking in refugees? Was the greek patriarch complicit when he ordered his church to give out christian baptismal certificates to every jew they could? How would egypt be complicit in genocide by taking in people fleeing that very thing?
Israel's stated goals are ethnic cleansing. There are real estate companies already selling land in Gaza. Gaza's population is made of mostly refugees that Israel does not allow to return to their homes that has been the situation for 75 years
The plan is to never allow the Palestinians to return, this is called ethnic cleansing.
But I expect you already know this and are only arguing in bad faith.