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Trump’s legal team also tried to throw cold water on the idea in a filing earlier this week, writing that the “events of January 6 were not an ‘insurrection’ as they did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow or resist the U.S. government.”

Trump disagrees, apparently.

“They kept saying about what I said right after the insurrection,” he said outside Mar-a-Lago after arguments concluded in Washington, D.C. “I think it was an insurrection caused by Nancy Pelosi.

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[–] [email protected] 205 points 1 year ago (4 children)

But Biden’s brain is the one we should be worried about. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (6 children)

We should, because it's the brain that has to beat Trump. We don't have any better options, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We have better options; the DNC and GOP both refuse to present one.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I really thought in 2016 Bernie would splinter the democrats and we’d have a true left party. I also thought trump would create a new party on the right and the republicans would go back to being republicans. Can you imagine a 4 party system!

To my surprise, the trump dragged the republicans even further to the right, and the democrats moved even more center-right to appease ex-republicans. So the whole nation just moved right, which is sad.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

FPTP tends towards a two-party system. CGP Grey made a video about it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's been moving to the right my whole lifetime. i'm 64. we're not right at the fascist line, with our right wing party actually over the line, and no far left at all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't last.. you'd end up like Australia where they just form coalitions and it's the same result as if they never split

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What better options? What names are well known to people? What people that are well known can overcome incumbency bias? Do any have literal decades of experience in congress and the white house?

I would have preferred Bernie but throwing out names only a small percentage of the electorate will know is a fools gamble. And the DNC using marketing to get them well know would have been a huge waste of times and resources to build someone up when there's already a good candidate sitting in the oval office. You're not going to throw out a sitting President unless he's WILDLY unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Barack Obama wasn’t very well known when he ran for president t. And he won twice.

I think the point is that both the Dems and GOP are pigeon-holing themselves by only allowing one candidate to run. Why does it have to be that way? So what if there are 10 dems and 22 GOP to choose from? Or whatever.

Make them actually have to work for it and let the American people decide. Scrap the first past the post rule and ditch the electoral college. Give the people their voices back. The way it works right now does not work. It’s high time everyone just admits to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

He wasn't trying to primary an incumbent either.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I’m down for Gretchen Whitmer.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

He is wildly unpopular. A majority of Americans thinks he is too old to be an effective president. This has nothing to do with his record, but with the simple biological fact that our minds decay as we reach our 80s.

For that same reason Trump is a terrible candidate as well, and I actually am not worried that a younger candidate with some name recognition will be able to defeat him. I am much more worried about Biden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gather every D senator and congressman into a giant circle and toss a stone into the air. Whoever it hits is likely better.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Bob Menendez.

(Sure you qualified it with "likely" but I couldn't resist)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I would vote for him for anything, but he doesn't want the job, and he isn't running. Those are two important prerequisites to voting for the guy.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like y'all need to start over if this is the pinnacle of 250 years of political evolution.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

~~evolution~~

festering

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe he decides to step down. I think the people are pretty well set on voting either Trump or [person against Trump]

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nah, I don't think Harris has the charisma to rally the party. Biden needs to survive the election, and then he can step down after beating Trump if needed.

Don't get me wrong, I will vote for just about anybody over Trump, but I think it's going to be a close race.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know this is nothing remotely new, but I feel like it's justified to keep repeating it:

US elections is a shitshow.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can think of one but Katie has other ideas

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm worried about both. Neither should be president. Trump never should have been. Having 70 and 80+ year old presidents that couldn't program a damned TV remote is just a showcase of how terrible our plutocracy has become.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well, to be fair I'm late 30's and I can't program a tv remote either.....

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really we should be worried about both...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You know, as long as you "both sides" a battle between fascism and not fascism, I'll mark you down as being on the side of fascism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LOL you can mark me down as whatever you want if it makes you feel better but it's not going to make this idiot anymore mentally stable.

People like you are why we're in this mess in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And your argument is that we shouldn't vote against(!) Hitler because the other candidate isn't great, either. I think people like you are why we'll be in a situation where this mess will look like paradise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't tell anyone who to vote or not vote for, dumbass

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Right, but you implicitly said that they both don't deserve the vote. So as a non-American, I fear that US citizens like you still haven't grasped that their duty is to vote against Trump at all costs, no matter if the other option is a loaf of bread.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, but you implicitly said that they both don't deserve the vote.

Well let me explicitly state that they don't. Unfortunately these remain the shitty choices that exist. That doesn't mean you bury your fuckin head in the sand and deny deny deny when you see something wrong.

I fear that US citizens like you still haven't grasped that their duty is to vote against Trump at all costs

What makes you think I'm a US citizen?

no matter how old the other candidate is.

We weren't discussing age, we were discussing mental fitness.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You’re being silly and dumb that’s how I figured you’re living in the U.S.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Yes, because he's currently the president. There are more important things than some has-been Cheeto monster shouting at clouds, like the genocide the current sitting president is actively abetting.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then, we all better vote for Trump. Everyone knows how fiercely critical of Israel he is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, that's definitely what I meant. I'd love another four years of Trump. /s

How 'bout you just vote for the candidate that might put more than lip service towards stopping this generation's Li'l Hitler? Here's a hint: you won't find them in either of the major parties.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And how do you plan on getting that candidate to 270+?

Get a clue

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That's not my job. My job as a citizen is to vote for the candidate I believe deserves the position, regardless of party affiliation.

The only reason Democrats and Republicans rose to the top is thay they once held the most generic, inoffensive views that people from the less popular "third" parties could support when it eventually became clear they didn't have chance at winning. That's no longer the case, so why continue voting like it is? Change has to start somewhere, and it sure as hell isn't going to come from someone who benefits from maintaining the status quo.

If everybody voted with hope and optimism rather than despair and cynicism, we might have more variety than blue dick vs red asshole.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (17 children)

I am curious… do you think that there is any realistic chance that someone other than the two main candidates will win the upcoming election?

Wouldn’t you agree that this ‘change’ of being able to vote for a candidate who both deserves the position and also actually has a chance of winning, is not going to happen this year regardless of how you vote?

Unless something major happens very soon, it’s going to be one or the other. Most voters are not happy with this reality, particularly Biden voters, but this is the reality we find ourselves in.

I am happy to hear you express a desire to end the genocide and destruction of Palestine. A large portion of Biden voters agree with you on that point.

Other than his age and his ‘soft on Israel’ position, I happen to think Biden has done a decent job. But let’s assume I am wrong and he has done a terrible job. Would he be worse than trump? Would trump be worse?

Would you agree or disagree that, like it or not, we are in a ‘lesser of two evils’ situation?

Here is your chance to prove that you are not just a troll. These are genuine question which I hope you will answer honestly, however you may truly feel.

If you prefer trump, just say it, you have the right to your opinions. Pulling the ‘genocide Joe - vote third party’ card comes across as disingenuous, far-right propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Guys don't bother with this dope. He trolls every thread. He's an idiot.

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