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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Actually significantly below average even by the low bar of the Dem leadership. He was the most conservative democrat candidate in a field that included Amy Klobuchar and two billionaires, one of whom is a former republican.

He's barely to the left of Joe Manchin and neoliberals pretend that he's the most progressive president ever 🤦

And yes, of course he's still a much better choice than the Mango Mussolini, but talk about a low fucking bar!

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He is undeniably awful on some issues, however if you look at everything that's happened under him, I think you'll be surprised how much, lets say his people, have started to pull the US out of a 40 year old Reagan shaped hole.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure, he's made some good cabinet appointments, but I guarantee that, for example, the excellent Lauren McFerran who's been doing a great job at NLRB wasn't his idea.

Party loyalists like the twitter troll Neera Tanden, unprincipled opportunists like Pete Buttigieg and conservatives like Merrick Garland are much more Biden's speed.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Ok exactly the fucking point. McFerran wasn't bidens idea, because he isnt obsessed with "oNLy tHe BEsT PeOpLE" who weirdly he has to be related to or owe money or who went on fucking infowars to praise him. There is ROOM for expertise and reasonable suggestions.

I would take any one of the people who are "bidens speed" over the muck eating, grifting, shitbird appoinents trump made.

Summarizing, you're right and still full of shit lol.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Can you list out some of the legislation he's helped pass and some of his executive orders?

Edit: Instead of everyone continuing with the "here's one thing I didn't like" game, here's a non-exhaustive list for you:

  • Rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement
  • Rejoining the World Health Organization
  • Revoking permits for the Keystone XL pipeline
  • Ending support for Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen
  • Withdrawing from Afghanistan
  • Juneteenth National Independence Day Act
  • American Rescue Plan
  • Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act
  • CHIPS and Science Act
  • Inflation Reduction Act
  • Honoring our PACT Act
  • Eliminating the Schedule F class of federal workers Trump created that stripped federal workers of job protections
  • Restoring collective bargaining rights to federal workers
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Well there's the time he lobbied Congress to take away the rights of striking railway workers.

And then there's the fact that he circumvented normal procedures to expedite weapons sales to Israel twice in December alone.

That's just two of many examples of him being on the side of the rich and powerful and against regular people every time there's conflict between the two groups.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

How dare he… checks notes… prevent a national financial crisis but still worked to get the unions everything they wanted, and stand by our international allies in a crisis even when Congress won't.

I guess you'd prefer a reality where he takes the fall for the consequences of the strike, Republicans win, and Israel is thrown under the bus, providing an example to our other allies that we will do the same to them as soon as it's politically convenient. Brilliant politics.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

prevent a national financial crisis

He did no such thing. That was just his bullshit excuse. The crisis from the next major derailment, one that could happen anywhere, including in major metropolitan areas, will likely be much worse than anything caused by upholding the rights of striking workers.

stand by our international allies in a crisis

Yeah, when those allies are operating an apartheid regime committing genocide, it's not a good thing to pretend that automatically taking their side is the principled thing to do. The crisis is of their own making and US support in the form of weapons and funding is making it worse, not better.

Republicans win, and Israel is thrown under the bus

Bullshit. Republicans are MORE staunchly in favor of the Israeli government, being fellow fascists.

we will do the same to them as soon as it's politically convenient

Yeah, because not enabling genocide by an apartheid regime is all about convenience! Gtfo with that bullshit!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • You seem to be under the impression that the strike was about safety, it was not. It was about sick days.
  • Israel is neither genocidal nor an apartheid state, this is total hyperbole, and I'm very glad the Biden administration does not share your warped redefinitions of these terms. Biden is now putting sanctions on those who go too far in Israel, which I appreciate. I hope he goes after their right wing politicians next.
  • The comment I was responding to wanted Biden to throw Israel under the bus, not the Republicans that would replace him due to the financial consequences of a national rail strike.
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

You seem to be under the impression that the strike was about safety, it was not. It was about sick days.

It was about both. You can repeat your narrative as many times as you want, doesn't change the fact that you're lying.

Israel is neither genocidal nor an apartheid state,

False. It's by definition a case of both.

this is total hyperbole

Wrong again.

your warped redefinitions of these terms

Those aren't my definitions. They are those of the Genocide Convention and South African Apartheid survivors.

Biden is now putting sanctions on those who go too far in Israel

Nope. He's frozen assets of a handful of civilian murderers from the West Bank, but is still supporting the Israeli government genocide with weapons, funding and lying about the extent of their atrocities.

The comment I was responding to wanted Biden to throw Israel under the bus

Israel IS the bus and he's throwing his own re-election prospects under it. He's already alienated significant portions of crucial battleground states like Michigan and he's hemorrhaging support from every voter who doesn't consider massacring civilians the cost of doing business.

the Republicans that would replace him due to the financial consequences of a national rail strike.

Again, a purely fictional hypothetical invented to excuse the ongoing gross violations of labor rights by some of his favorite owner donors.

I swear you Biden stans are just as blind to the many faults of your Dear Leader as the Trump cult sometimes 🤦

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

undermining the autonomy of workers to choose to strike is bad.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

What are you, some kinda big mouth Co- . . . oh . . . . sorry. Carry on.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Those striking railway workers eventually got their demands for sick leave met in their contracts with continued support from the Biden Administration AND our national economy didn't grind to a halt

"We’re thankful that the Biden administration played the long game on sick days and stuck with us for months after Congress imposed our updated national agreement,” Russo said. “Without making a big show of it, Joe Biden and members of his administration in the Transportation and Labor departments have been working continuously to get guaranteed paid sick days for all railroad workers.

Source: https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They got a fraction of what they were asking for and they weren't even asking for much. Their working conditions are still so awful that it's only a question of time before the next major derailment disaster like the one in Ohio happens.

Next time, it might happen in a major metropolitan area, in which case many will die and the economy will suffer a lot worse than not trampling on their rights would have.

And even the tiny concessions they DID get in spite of Biden convincing congress to make them fight oligarchic railway companies without their best weapon, strike actions, was due to NLRB efforts with no help from Corporate Joe.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The strike threat was about paid sick leave, it wasn't about railroad safety. Safety is an important issue too, but every single source from the time, even directly from the unions, explicitly discussed only paid sick leave. In that sense they got their demand met completely

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It was about sick leave and improving the working conditions that are so awful that they're literally making workers sick and trains less safe.

every single source from the time, even directly from the unions, explicitly discussed only paid sick leave

That's simply not true. That's the MSM and party narrative, but it isn't the truth. Outlets less intertwined with the political establishment such as The Intercept and The Nation could have informed you better, had you bothered to look beyond the bubble.

in that sense they got their demand met completely

You mean in that entirely fictional sense? To quote the Nation piece:

this was never just a conflict over the number of paid sick days. About 115,000 workers represented by 13 separate craft unions, who keep 40 percent of the nation’s freight moving, got screwed. The coalition of interests that did the screwing includes: the executive boards of the seven class-1 carriers, most of Congress, and the president.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Without making a big show of it

That's how Biden works! The corporate media is against Biden and it shows to those who can see. It's tough getting the real news and that's a massive problem for this country.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'm not really sure that's the point. The fact that the only changes that are allowed to get through are what the president allows is disheartening. The fact is, these workers should have been able to strike on their own terms without being shut down. What happens with a more hostile leader? What Biden did was defang the Union in that instance. Threw them a bone afterward, sure, but he defanged them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those child detention centers at the border: still open on his term.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (10 children)

God it's so frustrating fighting against the tidal wave of misinformation. How did Republicans win at social media??

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

He's still against universal healthcare. I am tired of folks beating people for wanting candidates that are more electable than Biden running instead of him. Universal healthcare polls well on the right and left.

That one issue tells you everything you need to know about him, he sides with corporate lobbyists before material needs of the people.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Remember how much political capital Obama had to spend just to get the ACA passed, and even then just barely? I would love universal healthcare but this probably isn't the best time to push for it, at least not until fascism is defeated and Democrats have the numbers. The president isn't a genie who can just make things like this happen unilaterally. The public may support it but Republicans do not.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

What polls are you looking at that have universal health care polling well on both sides?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I love that railroad Striker story because it just makes identifying people online so easy. Because whenever people online complain about it it's either one or two things, it's either they're completely ignorant of this actual scenario and what actually happened or they're just being intellectually dishonest on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

false dichotomy: i support the freedom to strike and anyone who challenges it is a class enemy

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love that railroad Striker story because it just makes identifying people online so easy.

You love a story about blocking workers from striking? Cool bruh.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like you read the newspapers but that's not where the real news is at. Corporations own the news. Dig deeper, a lot deeper. Biden isn't as bad as the MSM wants you to believe.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (25 children)

You're seriously saying that the MSM, most of which enjoys a symbiotic relationship with the DNC are portraying Biden as WORSE than he really is??

It's because I consume media from OUTSIDE of the MSM bubble that I know he's not anywhere near as great as the likes of Politico and NYT keep pretending.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement

Which is a non-binding agreement that the US is STILL not abiding by, so bfd.

Rejoining the World Health Organization

While continuing to downplay Covid-19, lifting the emergency status and forcing everyone back to work long before it was safe. Likely at the behest of donors.

Revoking permits for the Keystone XL pipeline

Which was a good thing more than made up for by mandating that any new renewable energy projects would be contingent on first increasing the amount of federal land leased for fossil fuel extraction many times over.

Ending support for Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen

Nope. The US is still very much supporting that genocide as well as the one in Gaza.

Withdrawing from Afghanistan

Which was a good idea horribly executed. Worst bungled end to a US war since Vietnam.

Juneteenth National Independence Day Act

Purely symbolic

American Rescue Plan

Insufficient but ok, I'm gonna be charitable and give him that one.

Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act

Mostly a giant giveaway to corporations, it privatized a lot more infrastructure than it paid to fix.

CHIPS and Science Act

Another corporate giveaway.

Inflation Reduction Act

Failed to live up to its name

Honoring our PACT Act

Ok, this was a good on.

Eliminating the Schedule F class of federal workers Trump created that stripped federal workers of job protections

While taking rights away from other workers.

Restoring collective bargaining rights to federal workers

Unless they bother some of his favorite donors like the railway workers did

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (28 children)

How do you propose Biden stop shale drillers on private property in Texas and New Mexico? Well he signed a massive investment in green energy and infrastructure that can help renewable technologies compete more effectively with fossil fuels. Should more immediate and drastic action happen? I believe so, but Biden can't do that without a Congress that agrees. Elect more Democrats to Congress

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weird how when there's a Conservative in charge they have unlimited power to ruin the country, but the dems hands are so tied, he couldn't possibly have done anything to stop the big bad oil companies.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird how it's easier to break something than to build something

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could he not break the fossil fuel industry then?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

He really can't. Breaking the fossil fuel industry would require building a regulatory framework to do so, which would require congressional action. On the other hand, directing federal agencies to stop enforcing existing regulations and making internal decisions to undermine federal oversight of industry (aka breaking the regulatory framework) is much easier.

Also, when gas prices go up people get angry

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah he should really pull back on that giant "produce oil" lever he's got on the Resolute desk with the presidential seal on the handle.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Or, you know, treat the climate apocalypse seriously.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

He's barely to the left of Joe Manchin

You know Biden & Manchin were in the same Senate together, right? So it's in fact quite easy to look up & see that this is completely false.

He was the most conservative Democrat candidate

That's not what voters thought during the primaries. This Business Insider ranking has him middle of the pack. And this Pew poll shows him having more liberal support than Bloomberg.

If you can show me a ranking of the candidates ideologies that shows Biden as the most conservative (actual data that supports your opinion, not just feelz), go ahead. I'll wait.

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