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Murder victim Kelly Wilkinson repeatedly visited police in fear. They said she was ‘cop shopping’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Agreed, support 2A and depend upon yourself.
The article is about things that happened in Australia 🙄
Exactly, I bet her loved ones wished she had the right tools to defend herself. Lord knows the police won’t.
Eew keep your gross American opinions to yourself.
No, the 1A means I can share it as much as I want. Freedom of Speech is awesome!
The irony of you tooting about 1A, celebrating your “right” to free speech, based on your ability to post something in a forum where 1A doesn’t apply.
It’s delicious.
Offtopic: so these quotes mean you doubt that it is a right too?
1A doesn't apply for what mods do, but it seems mods agree that his opinion belongs here.
1A does apply for him not being prosecuted for saying it anywhere. BTW, things like swatting gun rights' supporters' homes do in effect break 1A.
So there's a valid combination where there's nothing "delicious" in your meaning in his comment - that's if he meant that people in some other countries are more reserved with their opinions online because of fear of being flagged by police. I'd say it has some merit - slippery slopes work in reality.
Also I think I've read something about Australia, refugees, detention and human rights activism of the level a bit more sinister than in US.
And we have the freedom to call you out on your American bullshit (that doesn't even work in the US).
You make it sound like thats unique to the US and a foreign concept to the rest of the world.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you won't face consequences of what you say.
The first amendment applies only to government action on your speech. It has nothing to do with your speech on a private website and it doesn't apply outside of the US (even if you'd like to think the US owns the world).
Oh look, an Australian denying reality in favor of ideology. Shocking.
US has the highest domestic violence / death by gun rates in the entire world.
There is no such thing as good guy with a gun. Look at the victory parade just last week. People with guns everywhere just ran away for their lives instead of shooting the bad guy with the gun they love boasting about.
The worst mass shooting in Canada in history was 12 dead. What's the worst death toll in the US?
The last school shooting in Canada was about 20 years ago, when was the last one in the US?
If this Australian couple had guns, 90% chance she would have been shot and killed by beer husband instead of whatever means he used. The police should have done their jobs.
That is the reality.
The supposed tool to defend herself with would have been used to kill her even sooner.
If you need a gun in order to feel safe in your country, you live in a shithole.
Yeah! Because domestic abuse is totally not a thing in america. Oh wait.
And Australians have had massive incursions on their gun rights since 2020.
@GhostedIC
That's because we don't see using a gun as a right, just like we don’t see driving a car as a right. They're both activities that are priviledges earned through training and licensing.
@frostysauce
And as a result the number of school shootings is much, much lower than in the US.
Fuck off. Australia doesn't want or need your freedum bullshit.
She did.
Where the bald eagle swoops in and drops a loaded gun into her hands, yah.
Those of you who automatically dismiss self-defense out of hand: what is your method of self-defense, and why wasn't it used in 1930s Germany?
If only you supported education, more specifically geography, as much as you pretend to support the Constitution.
No I fully support the constitution and wish the amendments were universal human rights, not just American rights.
A populace with the ability to kill anyone with the press of a button isn't free or safe - it's fearful, which is a dangerous thing to be when you have a gun.
Gestures lazily at gun deaths per capita compared to the rest of the developed world.
There's also the 13th - Slavery is fine so long as we criminalise you. Why the fuck would you want this, exactly?
The deification of the founding fathers - a bunch of slave owners and the like is deeply weird. They had some good ideas... and some atrocious ones.
So you want more deaths in the world?
Well I don't.
Any country where you need a gun in order to feel safe is a shithole.
Something something, hammer and nail
I love the duality of Lemmy users:
“Ohhh nooos we can’t depend upon the police!”
“Ohh nooos how dare someone suggest taking agency for their own safety ! 2A is baddd mmmkay!”
I think the overall sentiment is removing violence as an option for everyone, cops, citizens, and criminals alike
Guns as a thing in this world inherently create death and loss as a result of their existence, not in spite of it
Bark on about how your rights are being taken, maybe when you find your oppressor we can throw a gun in the mix and see who comes out victorious. Waah waah, the powers are holding me down. Let's go get the state to allow more unrestricted access to fire arms, as that's everyone's solution to everything.
So he could have shot her?
Let's just set up a standoff where the husband, wife and one police officer all hold guns to each other. It'll all sort itself out when the dust settles like the wild west. See I can come up with stupid politically motivated solutions too. Stupid, to say a gun will "fix" a situation involving domestic abuse. You hear that 2A'ers, THAT'S STUPID!
You did the ol’Reddit switcharoo. I gotta say it takes a special kind of animal to do that on a thread dealing with a domestic abuse victim.