this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2024
205 points (100.0% liked)

Ask Lemmy

31632 readers
1741 users here now

A Fediverse community for open-ended, thought provoking questions


Rules: (interactive)


1) Be nice and; have funDoxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them


2) All posts must end with a '?'This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?


3) No spamPlease do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.


4) NSFW is okay, within reasonJust remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either [email protected] or [email protected]. NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].


5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions. If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email [email protected]. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.


6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try [email protected] or [email protected]


Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.

Partnered Communities:

Tech Support

No Stupid Questions

You Should Know

Reddit

Jokes

Ask Ouija


Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Ive been on reddit for more than a decade. Kinda bittersweet, but its not the first time I have moved on from an internet site. I just cant support reddit and sucking up all my posts for AI purposes. Feels terrible and spammy. Ive been a reddit premium holder for many many years.

Anyways, what communities do you recommend?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fediverse postings are probably also being used for AI training. Just so you won't be too shocked when it eventually comes out in the future.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've made peace with everything I post publicly online getting slurped up in training data.

But at least on Lemmy someone isn't claiming it's theirs and making millions off of it while simultaneously selling our time and attention to advertisers.

[–] ChillDude69 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

everything I post publicly online

I realize this will probably be a VERY unpopular take, but if you're speaking publicly, there's nothing for you to "make peace with." If you're speaking in public, you are literally donating whatever you're saying to whoever is reading or listening to it.

If you don't like that idea, then you shouldn't speak in public. That is your option.

And no, there is no good recourse, to try and prevent people from using public conversations, for purposes that someone might not like. Because every way you could try to control that usage sets a HORRIBLE precedent.

Just one example: if you could stop public conversations from being examined for AI training purposes, you could also say "oh, by the way, nobody can use public conversations on either side of a legal case." So then someone either gets away with major crimes, despite evidence just lying around out there, or someone else gets thrown in jail for something they didn't do, because evidence that could have exonerated them is inadmissible, because we can't use people's public conversations for anything.

Be mad at AI, if you want. Hate it all you want. Be as doom-and-gloom, sky-is-falling, etc all you want. But public speech is still public, and there are very good reasons for you losing control of it, as soon as you voluntarily speak it.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein 1 points 1 year ago

No no, well said. I agree completely. What's important is that this affirms the public domain, rather than (like Reddit's behavior) denies the public domain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it hits different when there is a company of ill-repute specifically profiting off of your data acting as the broker.