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A weakening economy and increasing political repression are forcing ever more Chinese people to emigrate. Spurred by TikTok, many are seeking more sustainable conditions in the United States.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

To hear it told some places here on Lemmy, you'd be surprised a single person would leave China.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

To be fair, Lemmy was founded by tankies. That's to be expected.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China so they can move there long term. Chinese people are migrating to North Korea but it's hard for Americans to get visas there.


Edit: for the people who seem to be misunderstanding me, I want to be quite clear. Practically every American would move to North Korea to enjoy advanced society, peaceful and prosperous, if they could, only they don't meet the strict criteria for a visa. There are a small and ever-shrinking handful who would stay in America given the chance to emigrate, but they're either hard-line idealists who believe in the long-term rehabilitation of their country, or deluded. Most of the major demographics surveys have confirmed this, and any media that disputes it is already known to be carefully overseen by anti-humanitarian pseudo-state-funded conspirators.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China

lol wut? I've not met a single person trying to get their kids into schools in China. All the people I know who have immigrated from China are like "fuck that place, but I love going back because it's my home and my family is there."

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, it's been stated, so it's a fact here. You are just in your own tiny bubble of people who don't want to live in China.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Fuck man, the bubble has followed me up and down the eastern seaboard and all the way to Texas and back. How do I get out?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That bubble also includes everywhere I have been which covers a good chunk of the west coast, southwest, and northeast. Where are these people that want to move to China? I think the only spots we haven’t covered is like Alabama and Oklahoma? So maybe they are there?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're all the people you haven't talked to. Practically every American. You've probably not even talked to 1% of Americans seriously about whether they want to move to China. Idk man, you're just bad at statistics or something.

*Disclaimer: I have never been to America but I'm sure I'm right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I realize you're being facetious, but you make an interesting point. That being said, I can recall having conversations about people wanting to move to many different states (ca, ma, co, tx, fl, hi, at least). And I've even heard people talk about wanting to move to different countries (india, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Brazil, at least) and I've never heard anyone say they want to move to China. I've had 3 close coworkers from China and asking them if they want to move back to China, they all laughed at the idea and essentially said "fuck no." My Indian colleagues seem to be mixed on the idea of returning to their homeland.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

People who have experienced various other countries want to settle in the US. People here who haven't been elsewhere, idolize the idea of X country and post about wishing they could go, knowing deep down they wouldn't even if they won the lottery and could go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So, I was telling the truth when I said I've never been to America; but I have lived in Asia and most people I know would gladly move to America if they had the chance. They love their homeland - some of them, at least! But "America" or similar sounds like a better life, and who doesn't want a better life? Unfortunately there's a lot of feeling of hopelessness about improving things, so even those who try to improve their home area easily burn out and often skip out if they can.

Many Westerners (orders of magnitude fewer) do want Asian visas, but mostly only because they have specific desire to help. Again, they love the Asian country they move to, but it's usually with the idea in the back of their minds that they can move back home when the time is right or if they need to. I can't speak for those who stay in Asia because they're disillusioned with their home country: such people are around but I don't often meet them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember what Disney taught you. "Just Believe!" When you believe, it'll be true, and all the occasional people you meet who aren't heading to China will be unusual outliers.

Listen to your feelings. You know it to be true. Everyone wants to move to China. Just Believe!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't tell if you're doing a bit or if you have brain worms.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Brain worms. Started as earworms but then they moved deeper...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

….Would move to North Korea to enjoy ‘Advanced Society’…. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

lol no they're not. North Korea is like a real-life SNL skit and China's population and real estate will implode in a couple decades. You can't even tell what's sarcasm anymore because after Trump told them it's okay, the stupid people are coming out in hordes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, luckily I've never met this Trump, so any stupid in me is my own bona fide stupid :-p

Are... Are you sure you're not itching to go to North Korea? Perhaps you're just in denial? I mean, I've not been there myself but people keep saying we should look out for Korea opportunities, and I have this low, ominous feeling about going South, so I think NK must be good.

Besides, I saw SNL once and it was funny. Sounds like an endorsement from you for NK!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you have a source for that? I've heard of folks being sent to China for a work appointment, and therefore looking for schools for their kids, but never Americans just straight up moving there to make a go of it, and place their kids

Edit and I assume when you say "most Americans" you mean "most Americans already interested in living in China" not "most Americans" because the latter would be a comical statement.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because the latter would be a comical statement.

I mean the latter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll need a source for that then.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the latter would be a comical statement.

Source: I thought someone would laugh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Excellent satire. It took a minute for me to be sure you were joking there, but strict visa requirements in an advanced NK gave it away

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China so they can move there long term.

I have a bit of a hard time believing that. Where did you hear this?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They hear it whenever they put their head up their ass. It's actually just digestive noises, but this neanderthal interprets it however they want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you, but I can hear my digestive noises quite fine without warping time and space to bend my anterior to my posterior.

And those digestive noises do say, that every American desires a better life in North Korea, but will settle for China as second best. Don't your digestive noises say the same thing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Where did you hear this?

Somewhere sandwiched between a <Fe+> and a </Fe+>

I thought the tone of the thread above made the irony clear, but apparently everyone took me seriously.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Well fuck. I blame hexbear and lemmygrad for thinking you were serious lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It was clear. Respect to your commitment to the bit in the edit. A lesser person would have backed away instead of doubling down.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love advanced societies that use wood gas to power decades-old trucks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Me too. "Reduce, Reuse, Recycle." See, environmental consciousness!