To hear it told some places here on Lemmy, you'd be surprised a single person would leave China.
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Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China so they can move there long term. Chinese people are migrating to North Korea but it's hard for Americans to get visas there.
Edit: for the people who seem to be misunderstanding me, I want to be quite clear. Practically every American would move to North Korea to enjoy advanced society, peaceful and prosperous, if they could, only they don't meet the strict criteria for a visa. There are a small and ever-shrinking handful who would stay in America given the chance to emigrate, but they're either hard-line idealists who believe in the long-term rehabilitation of their country, or deluded. Most of the major demographics surveys have confirmed this, and any media that disputes it is already known to be carefully overseen by anti-humanitarian pseudo-state-funded conspirators.
Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China
lol wut? I've not met a single person trying to get their kids into schools in China. All the people I know who have immigrated from China are like "fuck that place, but I love going back because it's my home and my family is there."
Nope, it's been stated, so it's a fact here. You are just in your own tiny bubble of people who don't want to live in China.
Fuck man, the bubble has followed me up and down the eastern seaboard and all the way to Texas and back. How do I get out?
That bubble also includes everywhere I have been which covers a good chunk of the west coast, southwest, and northeast. Where are these people that want to move to China? I think the only spots we haven’t covered is like Alabama and Oklahoma? So maybe they are there?
They're all the people you haven't talked to. Practically every American. You've probably not even talked to 1% of Americans seriously about whether they want to move to China. Idk man, you're just bad at statistics or something.
*Disclaimer: I have never been to America but I'm sure I'm right.
I realize you're being facetious, but you make an interesting point. That being said, I can recall having conversations about people wanting to move to many different states (ca, ma, co, tx, fl, hi, at least). And I've even heard people talk about wanting to move to different countries (india, Spain, Ireland, Germany, Brazil, at least) and I've never heard anyone say they want to move to China. I've had 3 close coworkers from China and asking them if they want to move back to China, they all laughed at the idea and essentially said "fuck no." My Indian colleagues seem to be mixed on the idea of returning to their homeland.
People who have experienced various other countries want to settle in the US. People here who haven't been elsewhere, idolize the idea of X country and post about wishing they could go, knowing deep down they wouldn't even if they won the lottery and could go anywhere.
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Remember what Disney taught you. "Just Believe!" When you believe, it'll be true, and all the occasional people you meet who aren't heading to China will be unusual outliers.
Listen to your feelings. You know it to be true. Everyone wants to move to China. Just Believe!
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….Would move to North Korea to enjoy ‘Advanced Society’…. 🤣
lol no they're not. North Korea is like a real-life SNL skit and China's population and real estate will implode in a couple decades. You can't even tell what's sarcasm anymore because after Trump told them it's okay, the stupid people are coming out in hordes.
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Do you have a source for that? I've heard of folks being sent to China for a work appointment, and therefore looking for schools for their kids, but never Americans just straight up moving there to make a go of it, and place their kids
Edit and I assume when you say "most Americans" you mean "most Americans already interested in living in China" not "most Americans" because the latter would be a comical statement.
because the latter would be a comical statement.
I mean the latter.
You'll need a source for that then.
the latter would be a comical statement.
Source: I thought someone would laugh
Excellent satire. It took a minute for me to be sure you were joking there, but strict visa requirements in an advanced NK gave it away
Most Americans are trying to get their children into schools in China so they can move there long term.
I have a bit of a hard time believing that. Where did you hear this?
They hear it whenever they put their head up their ass. It's actually just digestive noises, but this neanderthal interprets it however they want.
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I love advanced societies that use wood gas to power decades-old trucks
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The bravery and determination of these people is mind-blowing. I feel so lazy in comparison.
Being lazy is a privilege
Of course it is. I never said otherwise.
I'm guessing they're trying to say that you don't need to feel bad for having privileges that others don't. Acknowledge, yes, but you didn't choose the circumstances you were born into.
Good! The more immigration the better!
I only wish we could have a stipulation that additional immigrants must live outside of major cities, so they can help revitalize America's dying towns.
Ooh, interesting immigration policy: you can immigrate, but only to a rural area.
Rural America is better than a lot of places in the world.
I'm sure many immigrants would be ecstatic to have the opportunity.
I live in a rural town (1 hour+ drive in any drection to the next town) and I could see this being a good thing if implemented correctly. This town isn't equipped for an influx of any people, but has vacant lots that could be turned into a variety of housing. There aren't a lot of jobs, but I would think more people would mean more things could be offered. Potentially great way to invest in rural areas!
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I imagine they would; alas it gets a lot more complicated than that.
I'd like to see a renewed love for rural places generally, and especially in the developing world. There's so much potential there that I feel most people don't see.
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Oh we have a similar policy to that in Australia, it’s fucking awful.
New migrants have to uproot their lives to spend 3 years living in dead end towns with zero job prospects, it’s a huge career killer and ensures immigrants have less opportunities to advance compared to other Australians. It’s also a negative in their ability to form social connections due to the lack of people, or get help from ethnic communities who can share their experiences and knowledge navigating a new country compared to their previous.
But hey some shitty rural workplaces like abattoirs fucking love the captive workforce to exploit.
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I think most will agree immigration is good, but this "let's let everyone in!" mentality is dangerous. China is not our friend...we need to be vetting these people, making sure that everyone who's trying to get in are properly screened.
I don't agree with "letting everyone in."
I agree with expanding immigration limits and making it easier for people to immigrate.
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the article is veeery vague as to what "more" means, no actual data.
it tells the dramatized story of one person. why would a chinese travel all the way to the us when asia has plenty of countries to go to for a fraction of the cost?
also isnt china still seeing unprecedented growth? this article smells funny...
the article is veeery vague as to what "more" means, no actual data.
From the article:
"From October through January, US Border Patrol agents registered about 19,000 illegal Chinese entries. During the same period in 2021, while pandemic restrictions were still in place, only 55 were registered. "
Sounds like more to me
Pandemic and non-pandemic is not a good comparison, specifically for those mentioned restrictions... they note it's the fastest growing group but link that statement to another article about Mexican migration, which had no Chinese info I saw.
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what
havent we caught like 2 or 3 chinese american spies recently ?
Yea, but Lemmy is becoming like Reddit...hardcore liberal... "let everyone in, who cares!"
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The skin beneath Guo's pant leg is rubbed raw and, despite the bitter cold, he's only wearing dusty plastic sandals.
The remainder of his trek was via land, taking him through the Darien Gap, a densely overgrown rainforest that leads from Colombia into Panama.
From there, he ultimately arrived in Jacumba Hot Springs, a tiny California town of 600 residents located about 125 kilometers (75 miles) east of downtown San Diego.
Guo sat with his legs curled up in his arms on a plastic tarp he had laid on the ground to fight the cold of the desert morning.
Social media channels on video and messaging platforms display the best routes for getting into the US, giving step-by-step instructions, suggesting various modes of transportation, and even listing how much border patrol agents expect to be bribed in each country along the way.
The phenomenon of Chinese people entering the United States via the southern border has come to be described by the term "Zouxian," which can roughly be translated as "take the risk."
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This reminds me of the vice news video of Chinese dissidents aligning with the US far right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US0Rfav2qBA
Everybody thinks they are the hero of their own story.
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