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A: That good boy had many baconz
B: Pet pigs are awesome
And delicious!
How do you know someone eats animals? Don't worry, they'll tell you.
Yup. And if you tell someone you don’t eat meat online, there’s always people that will say “Just for that, I’m gonna eat DOUBLE meat tonight!”
Only if their mom brings them more tendies into their basement.
Maybe if you understand why people react like that, you can be more than just frustrated about it. Most people know that it's morally questionable to eat meat, but they do it so often they'd have to consider themself evil to accept that. The alternative is to just double down on it and exclaim that the non-meat eater is the baddie for pushing their beliefs on people. You can notice it when you just subtly bring it up and the way people overreact.
I don’t know if it goes that deep. Lately in the US it seems like yet another anti-woke playbook thing for the far right.
Dont you friggin dare make eating meat a political thing. Trump is a fucking cunt but if hes the only one defending you right to eat meat hes gonna have a whole lot more support than he does now. What you just implied is its anti woke to eat meat. I want you to think about how you just compared thousands of years of human suffering for so many different areas to eating a friggin bird that doesnt recognise itself in a mirror.
I think ur over thinking it. Im pretty sure most people dont like being told what to do. I dont consider myself evil for earing meat why should i? I source most of my meat from responsible farmers most of whoms farms i have seen myself. Those animals live good happy lives then hop skip and a bolt to the head they end up in my freezer. You welcome to do as u wish as long as ur not stopping me from doing as i wish. If u tell someone they cant do something or are evil for doing something then of cause they are not going to be happy its called self determination.
I also don't like being told what to do. But I can also recognise that its an extremely childish response to say "well you asked me not to, so I'm going to do it more".
Its not childish according to game theory its the perfect responce a strong incentive not to repeat the activity. Its a u told me to do x cos u dont want x to happen i enjoy doing x im going to do x more now that u told me not to do x its an incentive to not tell people to not do x.
That's the dumbest application of game theory I've ever heard.
This example would only apply if there were a finite amount of animals shared between the two people only and there were no other factors at play other than eating and being hungry. Additionally let's assume the x is [eat animals]. This then defines the reason why people are telling you to not eat animals (the second x) as simply because "they don't like it". It shows you are missing the point entirely.
Don't pretend your "you don't like it so I'm going to do more of it" is anything more than "owning the annoying vegans who told me what to do".
Yea, they had such good lives. Keep telling yourself that
I've noticed this projection almost always, as well. In my experience vegans usually keep it to themselves, yet those who eat meat tend to latch onto veganism and keep going on about it.
I eat meat, no intention to quit at this moment, however I rarely hear about vegans irl. People who don't like veganism for some reason? I hear them all the time.
Funny, in my experience it's the vegans that are the loudest at it.
edit: y'all mofos are inhaling tardygrades as I type this. there's 40 million skin mites that live on your lower lip.
and you love the flavor. and if it wasn't blindingly obvious I'm fucking with you but yeah mmmm I'm Vegan* (*cept for the mites and spiders) too
aw you don't eat animals?
that's a lie.
You consumed 3 spiders last week while sleeping. God knows how many gnats and other bugs.
Stop acting all superior, the only thing you've got going for you is the certainty that you've eliminated mammals from your diet and are subsisting on bugs.
Damn, you're right, damn. Guess there's no real difference between trying to avoid causing suffering and still causing a little, and not trying to avoid it and causing a lot. No difference at all. Damn.
it was a bad joke. not actual commentary. nevermind.
Sorry, it's just kind of identical to real comments that I've seen before about how we can't avoid running over insects when we drive and crap like that
https://youtu.be/_1uzTr9nKh0
Let me guess based on nothing but ur attitude ur a vegan?
Is that how communication works?
Only if you neutered them very young. Removal of the testicles reduces the potential for odor and taint associated with male hormones in boars after puberty. If you didn't do this to your pet pig, you are going to regret it when you cook it.
Source: My mother ran the local 4H club. Kids shouldn't see live castrations of animals IMHO. Especially since they are mostly done without anesthesia. The squeals still haunt me.
The fact that people are so insulated from the suffering of the animals they eat is part of the problem
More like part of the “solution”, created and upheld intentionally by the meat&dairy industry, incl. happy pictures of cows on an open field in the sunshine. I eat meat, but I would be stupid argue that vegans aren’t right. The suffering and cruelty we are causing animals (and the related pollution to the planet) is unacceptable.
Seeing suffering doesn't result in more empathy, it results in psychological damage and often in less empathy - losing empathy is a coping mechanism.
Well, I’m all for cultured meat products… but Florida’s House Bill 435 wants to snub progress.
I‘m happy to know every farmer I buy meat from, and also how they are kept and treated (way better than these requires). I could even pet or buy any animal I want from them. Further, I’m happy that my county‘s laws are as strict as they are.
I know locally sourced is much better for the environment, but when talking about empathy for the animals, I don't think getting to pet them before they die really cuts it.
if kids shouldnt see how their food is made then maybe they shouldnt be eating it
Your terms are acceptable. I've taught my kids a lot about anatomy from butchering.
Sounds fair. My parents made me look after some of our chickens from hatching then a couple months later there i was plucking the poor bastard. Gotta say it took a tremendouse amount of effort to raise and prepare that bird but my god did it tast so much better knowing all the love and effort that went into that animal.
Maybe no one should see it?
There's pretty widely documented evidence that slaughterhouse work is also harmful to mental health.
(Link is to sagepub)
Holy crap, this got real very fast...
Not without reason, but my daughter has been helping me with lambing since she was like 5 years old. Part of that is putting castrator bands on and docking tails, it hasn't messed her up but just been a good lesson in responsibility and handling animals respectfully.
However lambs just bleat a couple times and lay down in the corner. Showing non-farm kids a bunch of squealing piglets out of nowhere is definitely going to traumatize them.
By the way a non-neutered boar sounds like a terrifying pet to me! I would hope any pet pigs are castrated for safety reasons alone.
I don't understand why the hell you're being downvoted.
So I agree it probably sucks for children to see it, but it sucks that the industry exists. Maybe we should all suffer through seeing where meat comes from.
(Just to be clear, I'm an occasional meat eater. I've seen all of this stuff, and after considering the this of meat and also the carbon effect, I have reduced my meat intake, but I'm not at zero yet. Hopefully some day. I just wanted to be clear I'm somewhat of a hypocrite so I'm not dishonest.)
...and now they haunt me. Damn my over vivid imagination.
Not sure why downvoted... Main reason to have a pet pig is to grow it to eat it.
People eat their pet pigs? Wtf? Why would you eat your friend?
Its not mutually exclusive, these animals are relient on us to give them a good and happy life. From thousands of years of coevolution they have found an evolutinary niche and that niche is humman support class ie food. If we did not eat them and use them to build the very society we stand in today they would not exist. We love them we care for them we give them good lives then we eat them.
Much like children
Lemmy works in mysterious ways, and there's plenty of offended {vegans, crossfitters, communists, fascists, whatever} to downvote or brigade. Which is even more useless than on Reddit, but everyone needs a hobby.