808
Girls Basketball Team Kicked Out Of Boys League Championship After Defeating Boys Teams
(www.comicsands.com)
this post was submitted on 10 Mar 2024
808 points (100.0% liked)
News
28765 readers
3785 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Just another reminder that sports are segregated by gender because men got upset at women beating them, not because of "muh muscle mass" or "muh bone density".
It's why Chess is fucking segregated by gender. The most "giga brained chess grandmasters" didn't like being beaten by women.
This girls team was winning because the boys haven't gone through puberty yet. Not saying it was ok to ban them, but it's false to claim that differences in bone mass and muscle density are imaginary. It just doesn't happen until after puberty.
And chess isn't exactly segregated by gender. The women's league exists to make women in chess more visible, to make it easier to pursue sponsorships, and to encourage more women to join the game. But women are free to compete in the "men's" category (which is actually called the "open" category), and often do. The reasons women haven't gotten to the top of it yet are cultural; women are discouraged from starting to play the game at a young age as all the top players do, and so far fewer women attempt the climb in the first place. But it will happen eventually.
Now if you want to talk about how transphobic FIDE is, there's some real merit in those accusations. Their rules around people who are transitioning are nonsensical, punishing people for absolutely no reason. But the women's league itself exists for good reasons.
This is a super good point. When my daughter went to 6th grade the girls towered over the boys by more than a foot in many cases. The boys looked so little.
https://theworld.org/stories/2016-08-17/see-120-years-struggle-gender-equality-olympics
For example, Judit Polgar. Chess grandmaster, and excellent player, her highest rank in unsegregated rankings, like maybe top 100 right? Yeah, by age 12 she was 55th. Peak she was 8th in the world. Not 8th among women, among men and women.
It's unsettling how she was regarded by some, and this was in the 90s. If I remember right, even Kasparov was less than kind. He might have turned around in his later years.
You say that in past tense as if he's dead or something, but Russia put him on its list of "terrorists and extremists" only a few days ago. I dunno if he's still bigoted against women chess players, but as an anti-Putin activist he can't be all bad.
Not intentionally.
I noticed a long time ago that there is "basketball" and "women's basketball" and have considered so much of sports machismo being about male fragility ever since.
Nobody actually cares about women's basketball. Do you watch WNBA?
I don't watch basketball at all, but what is your explanation for that?
It's not exciting. It's boring to watch, at the end of the day that is all it is. I don't watch men's basketball either, but I can very clearly see the difference in the game, they're actually different games entirely.
Be the change you want to see in the world. Call both of them basketball or gender identify both. In other sports, like the Olympics or Xgames, they identify each section by gender, which makes sense in describing what's happening.
I can't change the fact that there's the NBA and the WNBA.
Until they make it the WNBA and the MNBA, my point stands.
The NBA has been around since 1946, and the WNBA was introduced in 1996. They could have rebranded the NBA at that time I suppose, but the league was under no obligation to and why should they? If someone else spins up a business , I shouldn't have to change my name to accommodate them. I'm going to assume in most cases where the sport league is gendered, it's because one league existed prior to the other like in basketball.
Gender equality.
It's not inequality to identify the different leagues. They could have been the, "Alternate National Basketball League" if they wanted, but instead opted to use a clearer descriptor. Also, just because it's labeled, doesn't make it anything lesser and it's not insulting, it's just a literal description of what it is. In ~~internal~~ international competition, they are identified as men's and women's sports, but it would be nonsensical to rebrand a league just because a different league uses a more specific name.
"It would be nonsensical to rebrand" was also what I heard about the Washington Redskins.
"Redskin" is a is a racial slur and is a negative descriptor. "Women" is not a slur nor insulting. These are two very different situations, unless you're insinuating that calling females, "women" is some kind of insult akin to calling Native Americans "Redskins".