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[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 year ago (23 children)

The UN passed the resolution calling it genocide so I agree with that, I trust a democratic vote of the UN despite their inability to actually do anything compared to South Africa. I'm still going to vote Biden though because I know about project 2025 and know that we will probably get genocided in our own country if he loses. It sucks but that's how I feel.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 1 year ago (5 children)

If the only thing Biden ever does is keep Trump from office it will be a net win.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Project 2025 is a conservative plan to immediately reshape the executive branch and replace most people with Trump loyalists immediately if he wins. It includes dismantling the FBI and Department of Homeland Security, because while Republicans like to claim to be tough on crime, they really don't like an independently functioning Justice Department that has shown their leader to be a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember this is essentially what the dictator of China did to seize power in the 2000s. Ascend the ranks and replace people who didn't agree with him.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago

A maga movement to seize power and turn the US into a theocratic dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago

A fascist purging of government the Republicans have planned if Trump wins.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The same fearmongering we heard in 2016 and 2020. You must save Democracy for the 12th year in a row by voting Democrat!!

After Trump dies some other Republican will take over that says crazier shit and then you must keep saving Demoracy by always voting Democrat. Never vote third party.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The line is wearing thin, since democracy keeps being in greater peril even when we elect Democratic majorities.

Democrats would rather protect the filibuster than democracy.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Democrats would rather lose the election to a fascist than stop aiding a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When they're both doing genocide, does it matter?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It does when one wants to do more genocide, and make it local.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Pointing out that Biden will lose if he continues supporting genocide is not supporting Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (40 children)

Well historically I’ve voted independent. I’m Canadian, but we have similar party issues.

Honestly seeing shit like this though, if it really is just fearmongering, it’s fucking working. This shit looks horrifying to me, I’d probably end up voting for Biden just to not let trump in. And I fucking hate Biden.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I just perused the Wikipedia page, doesn’t seem like a boogeyman to me. Considering it’s backed by the Heritage Foundation. It seems horrifying to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Don't worry. I'm sure they don't really mean to install Trump as the president for life, make LGBTQ+ illegal, instill Christianty as the state religion, deploy the military for law enforcement, etc, etc. Hitler didn't REALLY mean he was gonna kill millions of people!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Its not, but plenty of Lemmy accounts are running around with a vested interest of convincing one and all that Biden and Dump are the exact same candidate and not voting is the answer. Its why theyll spam anything and everything about the Gaza genocide to the front page while not so sneakily inserting comments like this or, "gEnOciDe JoE" in the middle of it all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Or maybe people have a legitimate moral concern when their country is aiding and abetting an ongoing genocide?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two things can be happening. People with a legitimate moral concern, such as myself, don't actively act against that concern by helping elect a candidate who would make that concern even worse. There are ways to express our anger and sorrow about Biden's handling of this without supporting Trump.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Biden is going to lose if he continues his genocidal policy in Gaza.

People like me put pressure on the Biden admin to change course. By engaging in good faith criticism, I am trying to get Biden elected.

People who refuse to criticize Biden enable him to continue on this losing path. Enabling the worst of the Biden administration's policies is helping to elect Trump.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yes, I completely agree, so far as I can without looking up your post and comment history to confirm that you do what you are saying here you do, but taking your word for that. Good faith criticism isn't what Pan_Ziemniak seemed to be describing.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

(Spoiler)

If that means they take (in)action that lets Donnie win a second term, they don't

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Orange man is so bad that you'll actively support a genocide, very enlightened, great job.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Thanks! "orange man bad /s" really takes me back to the days I was scrolling r/con for laughs

Congrats on making it to Lemmy

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

>Lemmy accounts are running around with a vested interest of convincing one and all that Biden and Dump are the exact same candidate

if this were true you could show one.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (23 children)

^^^

Ill add return2ozma, linkerbaan, and tokenboomer off the top of my head. Each karmawhoring to keep themselves visible.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

>not voting is the answer

no one said that

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