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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I recommend that anyone buying a car that they'll have to finance bring in a laptop with an amortization schedule up and ready to go to the dealership. Dealers don't want to talk about the total cost of the car. They only want to talk in monthly payments. They'll sometimes offer cashback in order to get you to agree to a higher interest rate. If you don't have an amortization schedule handy, you're not going to be able to do that math and figure out if you're getting a good deal or getting scammed.

If you don't know what an amortization schedule is, then Google it and play around with one before you go in to buy a car. You only need to plug in a few variables - purchase price, number of months for the loan, and interest rate. That will allow you to see your monthly payment and what you're paying in interest.

If you can't do that simple thing, then don't finance a car.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the most valuable thing I learned in school was how to build amortization schedules. I've used it on vehicles, student debt, and mortgage. It's really helped me win the "stop paying unnecessary interest to others" game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same here. I've forgotten probably 90% of what I learned in school, but amortization schedules have stuck with me because they're such a necessary part of life.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In response to an article about how poor people are trapped by loans… you recommend that? Really?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. Did you read the article? The people interviewed explicitly say that they don't know anything about interest rates and how financing works. One guy had a 75% interest rate because he apparently had no idea what that meant he would be paying , which is several times the price of the car.

If you're going to finance a car, you need to arm yourself with the tools to figure out what that is going to cost you. Go in prepared. Don't count on the dealer telling you the numbers, because they are not on your side. They are trying to hide that information from you to get you to agree to something for their benefit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Poor uneducated people are being oppressed by corporate shills... Best you got it "learn the rules of the game: basically?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

You're oddly hostile for a post where I offered advice. Obviously we'd be better off if there were strong protections in place. No one is arguing otherwise. I offered practical advice that you and your loved ones should follow to protect yourselves and you act like I'm saying the system is perfect and nothing should change.

If you posted an article about people were dying in car crashes and I said to make sure you wear a seatbelt, you're acting as if I said we shouldn't continue to try to make travel safer. Wear a seatbelt! And make sure you know how finance works before taking out a loan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Educating people is a lot easier than fixing the system. No reason we can’t try to do both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the advice is really “at least google it before signing a contract”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what would be better recommendations for the poor individuals trapped by loans?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regulatory reform? Not “just go buy a laptop and study amortization before you buy”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that sounds reasonable in the long run (years), while the laptop plan is more immediately useful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, telling poor people to buy laptops is so practical