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cross-posted from: https://lemmit.online/post/2715522

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The original was posted on /r/ukrainianconflict by /u/EarFast1528 on 2024-04-20 20:03:06.

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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and it comes with an additional $26,000,000,000 to continue the mass butchery of innocent men, women, and children in support of a genocide that eclipses what Russia is doing.

It also comes with banning the largest platform for pro-Palestinian content...

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you are in the wrong thread, friend.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The $21b for Israel was a separate vote. Maybe you should go find a thread about that, unless you are a Tankie just trying to make anything that helps Ukraine look bad, in which case carry on in the most obvious way.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's still one package, mate. The fact that they voted on the Israel part separately is irrelevant when the vote fucking passed anyway.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No they are separate packages. It's not possible to vote on things separately if they are one package.

[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The foreign aid package passed on Saturday also includes: - $26.4bn (£21.34bn) in military support for Israel, with $9.1bn (£7.36bn) of that allocated to humanitarian aid for Gaza - $8.1bn (£6.55bn) in funding for allies in the Asia-Pacific, including Taiwan, to "counter communist China".

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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] brain_in_a_box@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tankie is when you don't support mass genocide.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The same bill included billions for Israel. You can't separate the 2; they're literally the same funding package.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So we aren't allowed to be happy for Ukraine?

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I never said you can't; that's your choice to make whether you can compartmentalize these from each other on an emotional level.

But whether you are happy for Ukraine or not, on a factual level you cannot ignore that this bill's passage is also furthering a genocide.

Unless you are openly valuing the lives of Ukranians over the lives of Palestinians, I'm not sure you can say the bill's passage is ultimately a good thing.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's not even true. The Ukraine funding was voted on separately from the Israel funding. So in this case I will celebrate the help to end one genocide in this thread while going to the appropriate thread to protest the funding of the other.

[–] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, good to know. I heard Johnson was aiming to split them into separate bills, but hadn't heard those versions were the ones passed. Most news outlets keep referring to them in the singular, which there was a bill that the Senate was building that was still unified.