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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t think that a hostile foreign nation has an inalienable right to collect the data of and interfere in the lives of American citizens, as a form of “free speech” lol

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I guess the EU should ban Meta and Xitter....

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The United States is not an enemy nation to the EU. Nor does the United States own Meta or Xitter.

That being said if EU nations were worried about the NSA collecting information on their citizens and had reason to believe Meta was complicit in that, then they absolutely should ban Meta. I mean they have the GDPR don’t they.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They basically do, as revealed by Snowden documents when the US forced American companies like AT&T, Microsoft, or Google to let them spy on their users. I don't even think Tik Tok stores their user data in China servers, it's in Texas or Virginia or Singapore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This was the original compromise, but Byte Dance repeatedly gave access to said servers to engineers with ties to the CCP against the agreement’s stipulations. Byte Dance broke the compromise.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh I don't remember seeing that anywhere. You got a link with more info on that?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well then yeah maybe the EU should ban them. Thats up to them, but I would totally understand it if they did.

As for TikTok’s user data, it doesn’t matter where it’s geographically stored. ByteDance has unfettered access to the data regardless, which means the CCP has unfettered access to it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Probably, but for other reasons. Neither of those are owned by the US, are they?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes but not for the reasons stated in the post you replied to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was apparently fine for years and years though lol

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You think that it being unaddressed made it “fine?” The United States had slavery for years and years before being banned and I wouldn’t call that “fine” either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Nope a solid example of how just because something is not illegal doesn’t mean it is fine

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No it’s literally the exact same logical process you followed in your comment, just on a subject dramatically worse. Also I know what it is you’re accusing me of, but a “red herring” is not it lol.