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[-] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago

Voting does sort of make you complicit, honestly.

But guess what? Not voting also makes you complicit. So does voting in a way that has no chance of having an effect based on the current rules.

Basically, existing as an eligible voter, at least in a country where voting isn't rigged (so like, Russians are off the hook here, for example) makes you complicit in your government's actions.

That's kind of a big point of being in a democratic society - we are all, every one of us, responsible for the actions of our government.

And if you don't like that responsibility, I get it, I totally sympathize, because I agree. I hate that responsibility, especially cause I know damn well I'm not qualified to make those decisions. But I still am responsible, and pretending I'm not doesn't change that.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

at least in a country where voting isn’t rigged (so like, Russians are off the hook here, for example)

So we're all off the hook, then?

That’s kind of a big point of being in a democratic society

You don't live in a democratic society.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Everywhere on the internet is America

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Everywhere

Tell me where you live and I'll show you how anti-democratic the society you live in really is.

Up for this challenge?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

I'm curious. Please (Unironically) tell me about the anti-democratic nature of germany.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

the anti-democratic nature of germany.

Gee... what a challenge! I'm going to be completely stumped by this one, eh?

But just before I do the little surrender dance, we have to... you know - dot the i's and get the paperwork right, okay?

You did get to vote on who it is that manages you at your job, right?

[-] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

What a terrible way of avoiding the question.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, not at all.

We are absolutely getting to the heart of the matter... and no amount of liberal pearl-clutching is going to change that.

I take it the answer is a definite no?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I get what sea lioning is but I don't see the relevance to this convo. Unless you're calling yourself a sealion? But I'm on your side, I don't think trying to keep the conversation about Germany's government counts.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

But this was not what the Original Comment was about...? This is not about society as a whole, but rather, well, the nation we live in being ruled in a certain way. A government for the people, by the people, seems pretty democratic to me.

And Yes, I know there's problems. I know one's job often isn't managed in a democratic fashion (although that does exist, mind you). I know there's corruption and misinformation and whatever else, but at the end of the day, my vote counts. And so does everyone else's.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is about as simple as it gets - you either live in a democratic society or you don't.

If it's a case of the former it doesn't matter how hard and for how long political racketeers and their media cronies have shoved a buzzword down your throat, does it now?

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