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‘Hopeless and broken’: why the world’s top climate scientists are in despair (www.theguardian.com)
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cross-posted from: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/11288860

Instead, Cerezo-Mota expects the world to heat by a catastrophic 3C this century, soaring past the internationally agreed 1.5C target and delivering enormous suffering to billions of people. This is her optimistic view, she says.

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[–] lethargic_lemming@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

yeah i gave up a long time ago. just don't have kids please. don't bring them into this mess.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 11 months ago

This is where I'm at as well. I've accepted that the world is fucked and billions will likely die during my lifetime. But there's nothing I can personally do about it. So I'm just making the best of what life I have.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Nah. If the climate crisis turns into societal collapse, and my future children want to avoid the pain of living through the apocalypse, they can kill themselves when things turn bleak. It's the same choice we all have. There's always a way off the ride. Every day any of us live is a day deemed better than the alternative.

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bro what the fuck

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

OP was begging everyone to stop having kids because they gave up on life - that's better than recognizing we can choose to stop living at any time?

Accepting the end of the human race is a lot more "what the fuck" than accepting the end of a human life, imo.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean.... Don't raise kids with that mentality

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Which mentality?

That human life is worth living, but circumstances may not always be, so we reserve the right to choose our own exit from it, or that choosing to live is saying life is better than death?

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're teaching your children to take their own lives when times are rough. I'm not besmirching your freedom to "exit" or anyone's choice but who are you, me, your kids, to make a decision of that final exit based off of criteria that is subjective and impossible to understand. Not even the very wise can see the end, apocalyptic world or not.

[–] small_crow@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Tell me where I said I'd teach a child suicide should be front of mind. All I mean is they should get to choose if they live - in response to someone pleading that we all stop having children.

I want to have a child. Why should I not, because the world could be in rough shape due to climate catastrophe? I'll let them make that call and I hope they don't have to.