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[–] [email protected] 113 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I just had a disagreement with someone on Lemmy a couple days ago who said Biden did nothing for the LGBTQ+ community. Maybe we just need more Trump headlines to educate people? Y’know, since they don’t read headlines about Biden

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Lemmy is infested with right wing trolls pretending to be leftists.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

They’re using the classic Republican move of encouraging abstaining from voting by highlighting Biden’s poor decisions. Trump’s supporters will vote him in if enough abstain. Inaction is action.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's like half of the general population supports him, and the other half supports Biden. Who would have thought different opinions on the topic would arise in a public forum.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's like half of the general population supports him, and the other half supports Biden.

Less than a quarter support Trump.

The bigger problem is that almost thalf of the population doesn't vote at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How can the polls show trump ahead and only a quarter support Trump? Are you saying most democrats don't vote and only Republicans do?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, also polls call landlines. What demographic of people have landlines and will sit in the phone answering questions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay fine. I'll accept that. How do you know that he has 25% of the vote? Is there some other method other than polls to determine support? Genuinely curious what your logic behind the numbers are and where 25% comes from. I just feel like both sides are so entrenched in their opinions on their party that they can't possibly think there are people who would support the other.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'll look but the article took how many registered voters and how many votes for trump and votes for Biden. Depending on what you are thinking, trump gets 25% if only 25% of registered voters vote for him.

This has numbers at the end. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/12/30/fact-check-fals-president-than-were-registered-u-s/4010087001/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But the article states in the last election trump had 48% of the popular vote with Biden at 52%. The polls last time were pretty even at around 50%. If the polls back then were accurate why would they no longer be accurate? Did a disproportionate amount of democrats get rid of land lines vs republican in the last 4 years?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Different measurements. 52% of who voted, not 52% of registered voters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

72% of registered voters voted 155000 out of 238000. Of those registered voters who voted was who the article referred to.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

I think this is something I've come to realize about every candidate, even trump, when we get to the polls.Through 4 years - unless something specific stands out(like how Bush got to ride 9-11 sympathy 3 years later for reelection) most of their accomplishments and failures (especially the ones in the first 2 years) are hard to remember and require a primer before November.

"What did turnip do that was so bad in his first 2 years? Shit can't remember, but he fucked up covid real bad and that's enough to vote biden"

So yes its nice that he is refreshing us all on what actually had been accomplished to ensure we are all informed voting. Even if he is trying to be an ass about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Yes it's kind of mind-boggling. People pushed for decades and decades and decades for marriage equality. The Obama administration had no intention of tackling it at all. Until Joe Biden spoke. He's literally one of the reasons we already have marriage equality. For however long we might keep it. Not to mention the nlrb union busting decision. Or the recent FTC abolishment of non-compete contracts for most people. There is no question that Biden is an outdated crusty old dumbass. Who may be far less Progressive or left-leaning than most of us would like. But he's also ironically one of the most positively consequential presidents of the last 50 to 70 years since FDR.

The reason most people have no idea about all this. Is because they were all victories against the ownership / capital class. The ones who own all the major media. They may make a low-key passing mention of these victories. Then never bring it up again ever. But they will harp for days months and years about how some policy hurts businesses or "wealthy" americans. Manufacturing consent for their owners. It's all by design. No one should get their information from publicly traded companies.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

You need to reelect Trump in order to stop electing people like him in the future

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nah, I think Republicans are so deranged that they would be convinced any shortcomings are some deep state, woke, FBI, Democrat sabotage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

my enemies are my enemies because they are dumb

Stop that narrative. It will lead you nowhere

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

I mean, I speak from experience. I personally know a lot of Republicans (all boomers) and they would genuinely believe that. At every opportunity they are talking about the deep state, some woke shit and how corrupt the FBI is, and how there's this massive conspiracy to assassinate trump. They all have a nearly religious view of him saying that if he dies, he'd be a "martyr" for Republicans, so that the "silent majority" will finally take a stand.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

When it comes to Trump it's literally only naive, stupid or evil that are possible explanations. All are bad.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

...because there won't be elections after him

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Why would you need one if you already have the genius as a present?

Edit: obviously /s, should've set it earlier

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not obvious when you are encouraging people to vote for trump like a huge moron.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, I just need to post a shit ton of article about him on Lemmy lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You need to keep posting it before every election, effectively elevating the other candidate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It doesn't matter. Cognitive dissonance is a lifestyle for these people. Which is why they're the perfect tools for fascists