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I think we need more positive messaging on the whole thing. We're not just fighting climate change but make life more healthy and pleasant for everybody.
Positive messaging hasn't done anything and its a polite way to be a push over. Start showing destroyed houses and dead bodies. Make pople look at the suffering without pussyfooting a feelgood message.
We need a film like Threads but for the climate catastrophe.
People don't like that and choose to look away. Blind ignorance is how we got to where we are today. The damages are irreversible in our current lifetime now.
The only viable solution these days are systemic ones where the government is actually doing its job and governing the damages done by larger companies.
But we're so fucked that if that were to be a universal law applied by every government by every country, then it will it take 100 or so years to get back to square one :)
This is a very interesting topic that would require a lot of discussions
In my opinion, we (obviously) need both BUT the messages leveraging fear will still be more spread thanks to algorithms.
So the issue here is more like “how do we reach the people that need more positive messages” rather than “we need more positive messages”
In the end, a lot of people just can’t get out of their own hamster wheel unless hard helped offline by people close to them.
It’s also true that we don’t need masses to react, just enough people… So well, as I said, it’s food for thought that requires discussions and actions, there is no end synthesis to this comment of mine :)
Do you take think trying to appeal to US "conservatives" in any way will do anything? These people are lost anyway.
Not likely. The problem is that you can only appeal to them in person. Any appeal made through the internet or the media will miss them completely. They self isolate in the media by only watching networks that confirm their bias against literally any climate activism and online there are algorithms that do it for them. When you do appeal to them in person, they attack you as a Soros-serving, leftist, liberal and declare that everything you tell them is fake news. They won't believe it until it affects them personally and even then they'll try to blame liberals for it while continuing to refuse to take positive action.
I think you're skewing terminology here between liberals and progressives. Liberals have not actually cared much at all about climate change. Not enough to do the changes required to see it mitigated.
You cannot compromise with the capitalist class that is suffocating the planet.
I am advocating for our survival. I don't think we make it out of this on the current trajectory. We need something new, radical, and different, something actually willing to tackle the climate crisis to the extent that it needs. I don't think that's a crazy thought.
We aren't gonna get out of this by sticking our head in the sand and I feel like that's what a lot of the techno optimists are doing. I actually find Kurzgesagt's content incredibly dangerous for this reason.
Fear is an incredible motivator and we are placating the masses right now, acting like the capitalists of the world are gonna be our saviors. Related to this thought, I always find it rich how everyone wants to look to the stars as if we are going to escape this planet, and that will be the solution, as if the more logical conclusion is not just to sustainably live in the planet we already have that we are perfectly adapted for. Something that their channel seems to advocate for is just blowing off into space and leaving it all behind.