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An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.

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0. Only post socialist memes


That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)


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We require alternative text (from now referred to as "alt text") to be added to all posts/comments containing media, such as images, animated GIFs, videos, audio files, and custom emojis.
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1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here


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That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).


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The only dangerous minority is the rich.


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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This reminds me of the story from some time back about a family calling emergency services because their disabled kid has a meltdown and was being violent. Cops showed up, kid went after one of them with a gardening tool, so the other one shot him.

I think it can be used as an example of why jumping from chapter 1 to chapter 2 isn't all that helpful.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

counterpoint: a disabled child is not a fascist

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Also counterpoint: cops are not antifascist so the OP just made a completely irrelevant comment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Cops as a group or as individuals?

Also, that OP thing is funny considering your tag.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I need to upvote this like a million more times... Jfc.. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

But how do you know if a fascist isn't a disabled child?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No that's an example of ACAB. The cops are the fascists

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree. I can only see it as an application of chapter 2. Only that they skipped chapter 1. And usually, the grunts aren't really recruited for their ability to read books.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Provides perfect example of love not defeating fascism.

Misreads it as the exact opposite...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the exact opposite be love defeating fascism? I don't believe i said that anywhere. But I can say it now.

Love can defeat fascism. Mutual love as fellow humans. Everyone has to be willing to put it to practice though.

The example i gave has a simpler purpose. Extreme violence only has one result: death.

Some people expect it to be the death of fascism, but it's not. It's just death. And death isn't picky.

Instead, some people here seem to love hating. They love to hate cops, lump them together and dehumanize them into a blob of abhorrent mass.

I know it's hard to think about things and harder still to solve the issues that plague us, but that doesn't make advocating violence right, no matter who it is against.

It's fine to be wrathful. But it's not right. Violence changes you. And as long as you have a conscience, the remorse will always be there. To escape the burden, many choose to lock away that conscience and fall deeper into violence. Until you become that which you claimed to kill.

The only real way of defeating fascism is solving the issues that caused it to surface, together.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn't bother reading because three paragraphs in it was clear you failed to recognize the fascists were the one committing extreme violence leading to death...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're a highly ineffective troll...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To say that means you've been a victim of effective trolling and this saddens me. It also helps prove a point, you're jaded.

The experience was significant enough to mark your personality and change your train of thought when what you consider as trolling is involved.

Return to youth, old soul, and believe that people are better than you thought, even though they are often not.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Key point about trolling. Don't do wall of text screeds...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the advice.

Still, not being able to handle tedium is again, a you problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Now you're getting there.

Next point. Your chief form of trolling can't just be announcing you don't know how to read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But it's my most lovable feature.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

That misunderstanding is a luxory of not knowing how to read.