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But but but Biden isn't doing anything!1!
JOR BIDEN GENERCIDEs SO I VOET 3rd Party BRO IM COMMUNISM
Belittling opposition to genocide. Great look
It’s not belittling genocide opposition. It’s belittling those who hold democracy ransom over a single issue that they don’t understand, and weren’t even aware was happening for the last several decades.
Hypocritical when it's you holding democracy ransom telling them who to vote for. I am expressing democracy by voting for Jill Stein.
You’re knowingly throwing away a vote. There’s not much left that is more anti-democracy. But for now- you can enjoy that right.
Projection, you're literally voting for someone you don't agree with, so you have a fundamental misunderstanding of democracy.
You're voting third party in a First Past the Post election structure, so you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the specific incarnation of democracy you exist within.
Who said i disagree with him? I dislike a very few things he’s doing, and disagree with how they’re handled. That’s it.
I’m an adult though. So I understand nuance. And I also know that compromise is how things get accomplished.
Go ahead and look through a history book and see how many times protest votes and not booting succeeded in actionable results.
I’ll wait here.
It's absolutely nothing but.
Yes, opposition to genocide is just because those who oppose it are unenlightened, not because it's fucking genocide.
Biden hasn't been selling weapons he knows will be used for genocide for the past several decades. Now do the thing where you sling gaslighting and abuse.
For someone who had nothing to say about Palestine before October 7th, you sure love talking down at others from that high horse.
Your comment is history is almost entirety anti Biden rhetoric, and snarky rebuttals. People have tried to reason with you. You seem to have no desire to debate in good faith at all, so you should understand that It raises questions as to your motive here.
You have not, and will not find a single person here who supports genocide. Not one. Nor will you find anyone that thinks Biden handling of Palestine to be acceptable in any way. So STOP accusing people of this nonsense.
It makes you look foolish.
What people have CONSTANTLY tried to explain to you- is that this situation is very complicated. It’s nuanced. It’s not so simple to demand that something you don’t like be stopped immediately.
Either make an attempt to debate in good faith or don’t debate.
Do you suppose that there might have been something that happened between then and now that might have made the genocide undeniable to all but a few bad faith actors?
I have been massively dissatisfied with his performance, with one notable exception: he exceeded my expectations on student loan forgiveness.
The accusations began the very first time I said that Biden should stop supporting genocide.
At the very least, genocide denial in the face of obvious genocide is support for genocide. Yes, I have encountered that right here on lemmy.
Seen that too. And not just from the deniers. Mostly it takes the form of "every president since the formation of Israel has been complicit, why start having a problem now?" Sometimes it's "we can't stop selling Netanyahu weapons because Republicans will call us antisemitic." Both are defenses of Biden's actions themselves, and not merely an admonition to vote for Biden on the grounds that Trump is undeniably worse.
Of course Trump is worse, and that's why I'm voting for Biden. But as long as Biden supports genocide, I'm going to say he should stop doing that.
I'm not going to ask for patient incrementalism over the course of decades here.
Okay buddy.
I'm not really clear why. Biden has ran a competent administration and it's been like night and day compared to the chaotic horror of the trump admin. Of course, Biden should absolutely be pressured to change policy on Israel. AIPAC is a very powerful force in US politics, however. This is likely to be a close election and talking endless shit about Biden and encouraging people from voting or encouraging them to vote 3rd party absolutely is a gift to Trump. Netanyahu would love for Trump to be elected, as would Putin. It would be a greenlight for them to be even worse in their respective wars. Denigrating Biden and eroding his support will not solve anything for Palestine, and will totally screw Ukraine and Americans.
Quite obviously, I oppose genocide, and the Palestinians have deserved much better for years. Throwing this election over that issue makes absolutely no sense, though.
You could just ask me, I guess. Am I belittling genocide opposition? No. What I am opposed to is blaming the entire thing on Biden, as if 95% of the rest of the political establishment isn't involved and wouldn't have done the same things or worse. "Genocide Joe" is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. People seem totally ready to throw this election to trump, who has made it clear he would be even worse about Palestine, over this single issue, which would fuck over the US in an almost incalculable way. And then, it sure is odd how people who consider themselves leftists or communists spend huge amounts of time and energy bashing Biden and Democrats and NEVER express any concerns about Republicans or Trump. It makes absolutely no sense given that Democratic administrations are much better on issues they claim to care about - clean energy, unions, environmental regulations, women's rights, appointing reasonable people to courts, and so on.
The US just started supporting Israel with weapons and finances? Huh, I could have sworn that's been going on for at least 50 years.
The victimization from you is insane.
You're right. Genocide is victimless.
In this equation, you are playing victim by painting yourself as "opposition to genocide." When called on this, you pivoted to pretend the poster was insulting victims of genocide
I wanted to tell you that kind of cheap pivoting technique doesn't work here. I'm entirely against genocide and stand with Palestine, but this grandstanding is intellectually dishonest and makes you look like an entire clown.
I won't be replying further on this.
Very well said.
I find it very amusing that you compared them to an entire clown and not some fractional amount of clown
I'm so glad you pointed that out. I'll be using clown fractions moving forward.
I mean, I do oppose genocide. Don't you?
Again twisting words. That's all ya got, champ.
Never said that. I'm describing you.
Average American misunderstanding presidential power.
Average centrist gaslighting.
Lame response. Explain US Presidential power, and how they have the ability to tell another country what to do.
crickets
But that's not what they are doing.
I don't know if I ever laughed so hard at a comment on Lemmy before. You nailed it.
Compared to the $1.7 trillion student loan debt crisis he was key in creating? Actually yes. When it comes to future students who have to take on massive amounts of debt, he's also doing nothing there.
He hasn't done everything, everywhere, all at once, remaking all of society, in one fell swoop!1! Why won't he!1!
Maybe you're satisfied with biden shitting all over your face and then wiping away a bit with one finger, but most people aren't. Nobody is mad that he's not perfect, they're mad that he did active harm and then does barely anything to fix the problems that he himself has created.
B-b-b-b-Biden bad1!1!1!1!
Relieving literally 10% of that debt during his presidency so far is pretty frickin big
Causing a massive problem and then chipping away at maybe 10% of what some people have had to endure from it while not addressing the continued existence of this problem for people in the future is not big at all actually. This isn't problem solving.
He really finds lovely configurations for the deck chairs on the Titanic.
These payments are flashy, but do nothing to remedy the current predatory student loan system or the rising costs of academia.
Or how I'd put it: One needs to apply first aid when dealing with a gun shot wound. You don't just try to dig the bullet out while still on the sidewalk. Pressure, call for help, get a bunch of people involved, then you can deal with the problem in a better way.
It's steps in the right direction that I'd hope will put on closer to having a higher education system closer to the majority of the EU.
Unfortunately we have to get passed the GQP first before we can get to that point.
Found him!
He hasn’t solved climate change either, smh.
He also didn't immediately make marijuana legal on his first day, smh