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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/15904702

"This was intentional," said U.S. Rep. Rashida Tlaib. "You don't accidentally kill massive amounts of children and their families over and over again and get to say, 'It was a mistake.'"

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think Israeli and Western intelligence knows better than you, and more importantly, they have more credibility than Hamas and Hamas loyalists, whose job it is to exaggerate and lie. Want to talk about straining credibility? Let's talk about how nobody who died in air strikes is ever a Hamas members, there's hundreds of miles of tunnels in a tiny little area and Hamas loyalists pretend they don't know where they are, pretend they have no idea who is launching thousands of rockets day after day. Give me a break. The IDF on the other hand, actually has a track record of arresting and prosecuting war criminals within their own ranks. Hamas has a track record of giving them cash prizes.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Western Intelligence graded the Israeli claims as bullshit. The White House has been ignoring their own reports for months now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

lol, so Netanyahu isn’t an extremist who was caught lying multiple times about the existence of Hamas command centers under multiple buildings. You think it’s more likely he’s guided by intelligence reports over his actual ideology or his political and personal motivation to prolong a war to avoid jail time once he’s out of office for corruption?

Western Intelligence hasn’t backed up this claim so stop hiding behind them as if that absolves the crime.

Go ahead and show me IDF prosecuting war criminals in their ranks. I’ll wait. Despite the White House telling the Israeli government which specific divisions committed documented crimes this year alone, there hasn’t been any prosecutions. And I’m not talking about a single case but the hundreds of documented episodes on video of Israeli soldiers supporting pogroms in West Bank. Russia literally prosecuted more pogrom perpetrators than Israel has despite the video proof and more witnesses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Go ahead and show me IDF prosecuting war criminals in their ranks.

You're absolutely brainwashed. They cite to this fact in the ICJ opinion on the preliminary application. It's widely reported.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ah so you couldn’t show any. Got it.

Or do you mean when IDF sentenced an Israeli to 3 months of community service as punishment for murdering a Palestinian, you think that counts as sufficient prosecution?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Personally, doesn't sound like it. You're defending Palestine, though. Where nobody ever gets prosecuted for war crimes at all. Instead, they are paid cash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Military courts don't publish their docket. Courts martial are secret at least through sentencing.

The Military Advocate General says they've opened 70 criminal cases since the start of the war based on findings from hundreds of complaints. The Israeli attorney general confirmed that report.

https://www.idf.il/en/mini-sites/military-advocate-general-s-corps/remarks-of-the-military-advocate-general-at-the-israel-bar-association-annual-confrence-may-2024/

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hyw6f0wv0

Here's an older article naming some individuals: https://en.idi.org.il/articles/12244

I'm not saying there are many, I agree they try to cover it up when they can get away with it. Way more than zero, though.

The preliminary ICJ opinion cited others too but I can't put my finger on it right now, or of the 80 or so pages.

Hamas still giving their war criminals cash prizes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Your point? Hummus are terrorists, I expect them to do shitty things, not the “most moral army in the world”

Only in reference to your last line.

The rest I thank you for