politics

Biden's actions would beg to differ...

America should back Israel generally and that idea is uncontroversial in Washington.

That is true, the duopoly is bought and paid for, AIPAC is really good in investing in politicians that will follow their bidding!

I think Israeli and Western intelligence knows better than you, and more importantly, they have more credibility than Hamas and Hamas loyalists, whose job it is to exaggerate and lie. Want to talk about straining credibility? Let's talk about how nobody who died in air strikes is ever a Hamas members, there's hundreds of miles of tunnels in a tiny little area and Hamas loyalists pretend they don't know where they are, pretend they have no idea who is launching thousands of rockets day after day. Give me a break. The IDF on the other hand, actually has a track record of arresting and prosecuting war criminals within their own ranks. Hamas has a track record of giving them cash prizes.

And how are Hamas commanders allegedly in a land cleared by the IDF and in a “safe zone” the IDF told civilians to move to?

I refer you to every guerrilla war ever.

Literally just excuses for the consequences of Palestine's own actions and choices. Nobody cares less about the people of Gaza than Hamas, except maybe Iran.

I'm not willing to let terrorists dictate the terms of war because they are so deranged they let their own kids die, and be proud about it. So yes if there are, terrorists or tunnels there, all that's required is a reasonable attempt to warn. People want to take their kids with them that's up to them. I'm not willing to see another generation of Palestinians die hopeless under a theocratic dictatorship that only retains power by terror financing from Iran and the charity from the West, which prevents the Palestinian people from realizing how shitty their chosen leadership it.

Would I bomb a proven terrorist who is known to be plotting the deaths of more children even if he's surrounded by his family? Yes, unfortunately.

This isn't a "who likes killing children" competition. It's a really shitty trolley dilemma where inaction means letting killers continue to plot their next campaign targeting women and children

If leaving them alone meant you didn't know if their next target was your kids school, or your wife's place of work, or your parents retirement village, would you press the button on them or not?

I think what is going on here is that this person would have to admit america has committed awful and repeated war crimes over the years, just like Israel is now.

You can tell because they use Americas past wars/incidents as a standard to compare against.

Their position is so unpopular here because most people here would never hold up America as a standard for international relations, unless to illustrate what NOT to do.

I suppose if your media diet consists of Qatari state media and fundraising solicitations, as yours does, you would think that. In reality, commanders and tunnels are fair and morally just military targets under uncontroversial rules of war. And, if there's a reasonable effort to notify civilians to leave the area, that's all international law requires. Period everything you suggest above and beyond that is just your wish, and also ignores the fact that the tunnel warfare in Gaza is unprecedented in world history. If people don't leave after the warnings, that's on them. 99.3% of all Palestinians managing to get along without being killed standing near tunnel shafts, standing next to Hamas members. That's the asymmetry I care about. That's why I find these reactions over the top and hysterical. Especially when your counterproposal is to let generations, millions more Palestinians, live and die without ever knowing hope, under the physical and mental shackles of Hamas/panislamist leadership. I'm not concerned about the 0.7% who can't seem to stay away from Hamas. The only thing they are victims of is radical pan-Islamist plot to use their deaths to weaken western military and political power in the region.

They think they're going to restore Islam to its "rightful place in the world," which is code for a theocratic Islamic dictatorship ruling over hundreds of millions of people as well as killing every Jew in israel. The only rightful place in the world for Islamic government is in the trash bin, and aside from that it's never going to happen as long as western governments remain generally committed to democratic ideals.

I understand the news is very sad. Maybe your efforts would be better spent convincing the Palestinian people to tell Hamas to wear uniforms.and stop hiding under hospitals and houses, if they're going to complain that 0.7% of them were indistinguishable, if they're going to cry victim and wield international custom of war as a shield. Nah, they won't do that, because they literally want their kids to be in harm's way; their greatest ambition, under Hamas, is to die in a way that makes you sad.

The details are right in the article, just buried between hysteria and wild speculation.

IDF’s headquarters is in a civilian neighborhood in Tel Aviv. Why does IDF surround itself with civilians? By Israel’s logic, is Tel Aviv now a valid target?