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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, check it out in a collision, it’s unsafe as shit for the driver.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the modern truck has crash safety in mind due to crumple zones and other shit. I bet if a small truck were to be redesigned today with modern collision technology it would be just as safe as the truck without being multiple tons heavy to the point you nearly need a cdl license to drive a behemoth

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Kei modernized their truck, it still scores a zero.

Maybe research first…?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kei is a legal classification and not a company???

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What does that change? They’ve made them “safer”, it still achieves a zero, and loses against cars as well. It’s like your are trying to avoid the actual conversation here….

But yeah, sure deflect from the actual discussion instead of addressing the meat of the conservation… yeesh you guys are impossible to please aren’t you lmfao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Also I'd like to point out, I've been doing some digging and I can't seem to find a crash test rating for an actual japanese made kei truck, found one for some kei cars and they did decent (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8liH4qxnBCo) but I can't find any similar videos for trucks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh I wasn't trying to add anything to the conversation, I was just confused because you didn't know the second most basic thing about kei cars and yet here you are telling people to do their research before speaking

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be certified as Kei class they need to meet certain standards, it’s a very minor distinction that you seem to be very concerned about for some reason…..

You’re confused since you’re trying to be a pedant…? That’s different lmfao. Usually when you try to be pedantic you don’t go and say you’re confused about extremely simple things! Lmfao. What a rube.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Motorcycles are far less safe and far less utilitarian, but still legal and ubiquitous.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So why are Kei cars being banned, and not motorcycles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There’s a push for both? What are you talking about?

One’s just more of a priority since the vehicles are more dangerous for pedestrians as well, they’ll both get there if people have their way, you’re naive of out think otherwise.

Both are insanely dangerous for the driver, one is for pedestrians, one they’ll deal with first, than move on more judiciously to the next.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"Kei modernized their truck".

Kei is a style of vehicle. This is like saying, "pickups modernized their truck". So let's try and understand what this misguided individual meant.

"The small vehicle that I saw had poor crash handling". Perhaps, but that's going to be on the individual vehicle, not a class, in the same way some small vehicles handle really well, and some fall over (remember the Mercedes A class, anyone?)

"The style of vehicle that is categorised by kei is impossible to secure, and all of them score zero". I'd love to see evidence of this, if you've got any. A modern kei-style car, the Honda E 2020 has a euro NCAP 4* rating - not the best, but not zero, and that's just the first one I found.

Sadly, kei trucks are not commonly for sale in the UK or US, so I can't find ratings for them. There's no reason they can't be made as safe as other small vehicles, only a market preference for larger vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Check how much worse it is for the pedestrian to be hit by the pick up truck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Huh, both are dead from the videos I just watched. Any particular source I should be looking at?

It’s funny that pedestrians aren’t being hit at the same rates as in the US, so it’s like it’s not actually a concern since it doesn’t happen enough…?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

What a stupid argument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So are motorcycles. Maybe we should have a special license requirement for them, just like motorcycles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

My body my choice! Lol