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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

We made our bed, now we gotta sleep in it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"We" nothing. Biden and the Democratic powerbrokers being unable to see that he was going to be too old made this bed. I wasn't given any input into it. This is, by design, literally the first time he's been tested all campaign.

The rumored plan that came out of his campaign in 2020 was right, do a term stabilizing the nation as the oldest president in history, then pass it on to the next generation.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't given any input into it.

Sure you were, as was everyone else who was eligible to vote in the 2020 primary. That's the "we" in this scenario. Anyone who could do simple math knew how old Biden would be in 2024, yet a majority of those who voted picked him anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anybody with eyes can see that the DNC primaries are rigged.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Rigged how? Did the DNC falsify vote counts? Stuff ballot boxes?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

John Podesta's email leaks lays it out in detail for one of the elections (2016). Hillary did the best she could to spin the leaks trying to discredit the source (blaming Russia and WikiLeaks) rather than talking about the actual content of the leaks.

In 2020, the DNC heavilly convinced all the establishment candidates other than Biden to drop out right before Super Tuesday in a cordinated effort while making sure Elizibeth Warren stayed in the race to ensure that Bernie had as small of a chance as possible of winning, since he was winning big-time until then, not to mention the news-media falsely calling one of the elections for Mayor Pete when Bernie won that race.

In 2024, the DNC did all they could to hide the fact that there was even a primary at all, working with the news-media to ensure that they didn't even mention the competing candidates.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

the DNC heavilly convinced all the establishment candidates other than Biden to drop out

That's not rigging an election, that's just politics.

It's literally the same thing Macron is doing right now to stop Le Pen's fascists from winning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

None of this prevented democratic primary voters from voting for a younger candidate. The voters still had the opportunity and the agency to make a different choice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Voter shaming accomplishes nothing, especially when the system itself is rigged.

Voter shaming is the game that the DNC plays, and we've seen how that plays out.

What will work is actually inspiring voters, which the DNC hasn't done since FDR.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't want voters to feel ashamed, I want them to feel empowered, and I want them to accept the responsibility that comes along with that power. If we are more thoughtful in our choices, and if we do our due diligence as voters, we give party organizations, like the DNC, less power over us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In 2020 the prevailing wisdom was he was going to be a one-term president who couldn't say it because he'd be a lame duck. And by the time I was able to vote there were only two options, Biden and someone older than him. 80-90% of the party wasn't proactively choosing to have an 85 year old president when voting in those later states, they were voting for who they wanted to be president in 2020. A second term isn't a forgone conclusion for the oldest president in history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nobody who was paying attention thought he would be a one term president. He said nothing of the sort because that was never his plan. He literally said so at the time:

I don't have plans on one term

And his campaign emphasized the same thing at the time:

Lots of chatter out there on this so just want to be crystal clear: this is not a conversation our campaign is having and not something VP Biden is thinking about

This is not a conversation we are having among people who actually are running the campaign

And yet people still want to believe a bunch of anonymous "senior advisers" over what Biden actually said. Pure wishcasting.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

The DNC made our beds

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This is our last chance to pressure him into retirement. If Biden runs, he's going to lose. The "get over yourself" isn't enough to push a win.