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Mastodon handles lemmy communities a bit strangely, doesn't it? (lemmy.world)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I know that communities don't translate well to Mastodon, I just find it a little odd how it seems to be a firehose of all comments in a community when viewed in Mastodon. I was expecting it to "repost" posts submitted to the community and have comments in the replies to those posts. Just something odd I was thinking about.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They have a groups implementation on the road map. How long it takes, I don't know ... but mastodon aren't fast generally, so it's not happening soon in all likelihood.

Lemmy devs have taken a look at their spec for it and stated that it's not at all consistent with lemmy's implementation of communities over AP ... so even when it lands it probably won't help that much, at least at first.

Lemmy's communities aren't the only groups on the fediverse. The friendica/hubzilla groups have the same problem with mastodon's handling of groups (they're the only platforms apart from k/mbin that does both groups and users). Mike Macgirvin, the original dev of friendica/hubzilla, doesn't have a high opinion of mastodon's commitment to sensible standards (actually he's been quite scathing in the past). I haven't seen him comment on mastodon's plans for groups, but given his prior criticism I take it as more likely than not that mastodon will do groups in their own way and in a way that won't work well with the other group-based platforms.

Sorry for no links ... this is all impressions and recollections.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From what I've gathered, there's a decent amount of widespread bitterness out there about mastodon and gargron's choices exactly like what you've just expressed.

Mastodon is gargron's personal project. He runs exactly how he wants to and doesn't care too much about what others think. Except it's the one big player on the fediverse and has been put there because of a lot of other people's work and adoption.

It's influence and dominance over the fediverse is likely a serious problem because of exactly what you're talking about. There was a moment last year when fedi-enthusiasts kinda realised that some platform diversity is likely necessary in the fedi microblogging space. Some efforts were made (firefish was the one I was closest to), but no real inroads were made.

Personally, I'd like to help the threadiverse (lemmy and other group-first platforms) provide that diversity. I think these platforms can grow into providing user-based features similar to k/mbin but in a way that's not beholden to the microblogging baggage of twitter while also providing other features, structures and spaces.