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Absolutely not and if you think about the implications, you'd come to the same conclusion.
One of the most successful breweries in America is owned by its employees. New Belgium.
They did not crumble and fall apart because of "evil socialism". They flourished because every single worker had a vested interest in making the business grow.
Executives wonder why their employees are so unmotivated. Give them motivation. Not pizza parties
Employee ownership would save this nation from its spiral towards indentured servitude. 60% of the population currently lives month to month. You're telling me every single one of them is lazy? Bullshit.
The American dream has been stolen from us, it will take it back one way or another.
You can keep sucking on the nuts of billionaires pretending you will be one of them, I will fight for the working class.
With all due respect, one company doesnt proof a thing. Neither do 10 or 100. If it was such a successful business model, there were a lot more.
In the end, most people want to work 9to5, get their salary and not bother with the company anymore than that. Barely anyone would want to partly "own" the company beyond a stock share maybe.
Right just how people don't want to own houses.... Consider that you might be out of touch with the average American
Are you realizing how stupid that statement is or do you need me to explain?
No, it isn't. Just look at their website.
Okay so apparently a corporation bought them out in 2019. Looks like we are falling one by one corporate interest.
There used to be 100 government contractors know there are 4.
There used to be dozens of Telecom providers, now there are 3
You know how many places I've lived where I've had a choice of Internet provider? 0 Functionally a monopoly
I'm so close to giving up on this country because of the greed that is tearing it apart from the inside while everyone concerns themselves with talentless celebrities, Donald Trump included
I'm done being complacent. Something has to give
There is more than 4 government contractors. I don't even have to ask which government to assert that.
Of course there are more than four, but an enormously disproportionate amount of our tax dollars go to four of them.
20% goes to Lockheed Martin alone.
General Dynamics swallowed up all of the companies I worked for in the first half of my career.
You probably also think that because there are thousands of small farmers that they actually have any market share.
The big fish are eating the small ones and getting bigger and bigger. This is what happens when you relax antitrust enforcement. Why do you think we keep getting involved in wars we have nothing to do with? These four have raked in billions facilitating the death of our children overseas for decades
Economics and trickle down is working so great right? Republicans would drive us into slavery we gave them the reins. And yes it is political just look at Reagan and his policies and how they have affected us today
Oh look. A shifty slide from facts to ideology
So you only read the one part that you wanted to read?
You're cool with one company taking 1/5 of the defense tax dollars? That is a fact not an ideology or opinion.
The consolidation of these companies is not an opinion or an ideology it is a fact. Reality
Do you want to argue the points orrr.....
Nah I just want you to quit making up bullshit.
I almost feel bad for you now. You really don't have a leg to stand on do you?
So you're cool with that right? π
Do you work for one of these companies or something? Why are you being disingenuous?
I have decades of experience in the industry and you think I'm going to get shut down by some little teenager with his opinions?
Either concede or bring some good arguments. Otherwise I think you are a coward and probably 12
Right so it sounds like you have nothing? You got proven wrong and now you just want to go after me. I worked for SRA, CSRA, and GDIT. Those are all one company now lol
There's a huge cleft between "This one specific brewery" and "every company" though. And honestly I'm neither on expert on company law nor on socioeconomics and market economics, so I'm not one to ask. Maybe it'd be better if every company was employee owned. Or maybe not. Or maybe it would change fuck all. I can't know, not my area of expertise.
And this would not be the kind of global decision you'd want to make on a gut feeling, tbh.
I made a post in this community of a moral argument for mandating employee-owned companies. It isn't based on a gut feeling. It is based on the theory of inalienable rights. Here is a link to that post:
https://lemmy.world/post/17963706
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Please elaborate. Co ops already exists. And guild models existed for millenia.
Like what?
We found the CEO, guys.
Waitrose a giant supermarket chain (and mid upper class too) in the UK also owned by employees. So no I don't really.
Okie then temporarily embarrassed billionaire.