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[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The entire opening ceremony was riddled with elements that were exaggerated specifically to give the middle finger to people who can't help but force their personal religious beliefs on others. And seeing how riled up they've been getting over it, I must say it worked.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)

An event that's supposed to bring people together, instead purposely creates division. I'm agnostic af, but I can clearly see this is bad taste.

If you like creating division, then by all means celebrate it I guess...

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They included everyone who has been excluded from the beginning and made a statement that they will not pander to those who want them excluded anymore. Those who were angry at this are those who wanted to keep these people excluded. I'd say it's a pace in a good direction to bring people together. There is only a group of people who will need to learn they can't force their way on others anymore.

For crying out loud had these people had their way again we wouldn't even have had that badass metal music show in front of the ~~Bastille~~ Conciergerie, where Marie Antoinette was trialed and sentenced to death.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

badass metal music show in front of the Bastille.

Didn’t realize that was in front of the Bastille, you can’t get more anti authoritarian than that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My bad, the building it took place at was La Conciergeie, which is the location where Marie Antoinette was trialed and sentenced to death. The Bastille no longer exists.

But I mean, the anti-authoritarian vibe immediately peaked at the beginning with a beheaded Marie-Antoinette singing about hanging the aristocrats.

[–] leftzero 2 points 9 months ago

you can’t get more anti authoritarian than that

You could drown Macron in the Seine, to start with. (I mean, he'd probably suffocate rather than drown, but still.)

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, inclusion is division. Good double speak here.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No no, you don't get it. They don't like drag, and we should've known christian's don't like drag and wouldn't want to go to a drag show. So by us doing them anyways, knowing they won't be there, we're excluding them by not excluding them while they exclude themselves. We're the assholes y'all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We’re the assholes y’all.

ah damn it, if you put it like that.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's Christianity causing the division. Not the inclusions of the LGBT.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Drag !== LGBT.

LGBT is Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, three sexual orientations, and Transgender- a modifier of gender expression.

Drag is a performance.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

The only people creating division are religious people who can't switch off their offended brain for once and laugh a little.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

if you have to conform to what a single group wants while ignoring the actual countries who created the games and those who host them, that’s not”bringing people together” it’s just giving in to narrow views and acting as if only one group has legitimacy and the right to decide on anything. there is no “bringing together” of different people and things in that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The sad part is, that this just gives them more ammo. Having said that though, they look for ammo constantly, even without olympics they would find something else.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

i'm glad they're triggered. fuck christians.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

But only against christians, no othetlr religion or lack thereof.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure some of these other religions have a problem with scantily clad women, gay people and drag queens. That you think this was "only against christians" is pretty telling.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would imagine if it was a bunch of straight people in silly costumes we would be having a very different conversation... Maybe about how art was once part of the Olympics. That would be a fun thing to talk about.

"How dare the queers..." is so tiring a conversation to keep having over and over.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm having this exact discussion with someone else in the comments. There are so many parodies of this painting but this is the one that causes outrage. I wonder why....

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

So you’re indignant that the middle finger was only to Christians? And not everyone else? Weird hill to die on. And I’m pretty sure the middle finger wasn’t specifically to Christians, but to literally every moron with a stick up their ass about what other people do in their personal lives.

Also, the “lack thereof” is called atheism and attacking atheism is like attacking someone for not collecting stamps (to bastardize Penn Jillette). Quite a waste of time and effort.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's because other religions are minorities in the West and get too much hate and vitriol as it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Isnt the olympics about unity? If you have to single out a group to make fun of, maybe you shouldnt

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Rejecting your religion's bigotry is not "singling you out".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Really? They fully declared the performance was unquestionably for Christians? Not everything in the world is about Jesus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It was literally the Last Supper. I dont know how much more christian specific you can get

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Da Vinci’s the last supper is much more of an art accomplishment than a symbol of Christianity. I’ve seen soooo many parodies of the last supper that just wanted to make a simple joke using something people recognize. Again, not everything is about religion, for example, the satanic temple has “Christian symbols” but is a fully securely belief system.

Edit: so it turns out they were actually doing “Jan Harmensz van Biljert's Feast of the Gods, painted +/- 1635”. It’s the most Christian thing to do to just assume cause it reminds you of your symbolism, you get to restrict how people use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

it literally was not. i guess you skipped most of this discussion? and the article itself? it’s explained what it was a scene from. (hint: not from christianity).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Wow get over your jurt feelings because of a, ... checks notes ..., a screenplay with colored people or gays or something.

Aren't you christians supposed to be inclusive and not hating bigots?

Grow up lol.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

nah. fuck christians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Not unity specifically. Excellence, Respect and Friendship without discrimination. Technically "unity" is not a core mission statement and what is considered culturally significant is left to the host country to decide.

Is a fashion show featuring people dressed to reference Greek Gods off brand for the French?Not really. Historically speaking the Nobility used to employ people to dress up to become Greek gods in tableau to serve as living lawn ornements.

The original Olympics, both the ancient practice and the og international competition used to also feature arts and culture. Since the painting they were referencing was not the Last Supper and about Greek Gods it wasn't an intended act of disrespect or division ... But other forces are definitely choosing to make it so based on the idea that these things should be of the broadest possible appeal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

isn’t faith about humility? it’s arrogant to turn a celebration of a different culture into an attack on one’s “faith” yet we see cosplay christians do this literally every single day. spiritual materialism isn’t spiritual in any way. it’s using the trappings of religion like a weapon to attack others and gain power over them. it’s not about any relationship with God, or following any teachings. no faith in any god is shown by such reactions. it’s selfish, quick to anger, blind, unforgiving, arrogant, hypersensitive, and morally wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

they think that. somehow it doesn’t occurs to the “christians” that the olympics aren’t about them and aren’t focused on them at all. it wasn’t the last supper. it was homage to greek and french culture and history. because the olympics originated in greece and are being held in france. sheesh.