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I prefer to joke modern ideologies. Oh no... i'm a bigot now. Modern americans have the stangest godless religion now. Can i seriously joke about mlk or rosa parks or trans activists or i am a bigot?
You can make jokes about everything but if people keep calling you a bigot for making jokes about these it's because your jokes suck or aren't actually jokes.
Do you realise that you are reasoning exactly like the religious men that are depicted in the meme? ( talking about (god) it isn't an actual joke )
When I said you can joke about everything, I meant every fucking thing including religions.
But if your joke repertoire is 'lol women belong in the kitchen's amirite?! Trans attack helicopter LOL!', that makes you a bigoted asshole, yes.
Btw downwotes and dogma are your problem, not my problem. Dogmas stop knowledge and damage the people subject to them. No wonder that american technology have a lesser advantage against other countries.
First, I'm not american, second, please take your meds.
In the soviet union the government, in the bresnev era, sent the dissidents in psychiatric facilities. Are you at the same level of dogmatic conformism of the late soviet communism? It is so disturbing to ear different ideas?
No, I'm telling to take your meds because you are clearly unhinged
Clearly what? Clearly having different opinion is a mental disease? Interesting point.
No, the issue isn't that you have a different opinion, it's that you ramble about irrelevant things in a crazy word salad
No problem, i have discussed about religion and morale with most of known religion and i understand that some topics are taboo. No problem, every religion/ideology have these.
I literally told you that you can joke about everything, how do you end up with making this weird ass comment about religions and taboos?
Not everything... as you said, if i work in usa and i make a joke about a taboo topic, i will be fired. I can even make a joke about the coran in afghanistan and i will finish stoned , so... making a joke with consequences is never a problem.
No, you can joke about everything, the key point of my argument that you do not understand is that if your 'joke' is shit, if it punches down and is just a harmful stereotype, then people will rightfully be pissed and you will face the consequences of your stupidity.
The fact you can't conceive the very idea that it is possible to make a trans joke that is actually funny and not a harmful, bigoted stereotype tells me everything I need to know about you and your mindset.
Be offended should be your problem. Btw in islam , the atheism it is considered one of the worst sin. If you are atheist and your company don't want to offend muslims , you should be fired based on your reasoning. You are advocating about discrimination, so you have no problem if it is used against you. Your ideas, your consequences.
Are you physically unable to understand the basic concept of people not really interested in hanging out with assholes?
Asshole is a relative idea.
It is your religion and your morale, the downvotes tell me, even if i have made no jokes at all, that the faith in this new religion it is not only strong, but you denied that it is a faith too. An universal set of values without the minimal possibility of discussion, even ipotetical, what it is?
What the fuck are you talking about mate?
You ( and other people ) downvote me cause i'm having a different prospective about modern ideologies ( otherwise known as modern religions ). You even doesn't recognise the religious part of your thought. That's is interesting from a philosofical point of view.
Btw: the equivalence between religion and modern ideologies it is not my idea, you can find the same concept in a lot of ( more or less ) modern philosofical works.
Edit: in reality if you do not admit that your belief it is not a religion, you cannot have not believers, so your dogma became de facto universal.
Firstly, I didn't downvote you, second I'm literally telling you you can joke about everything, but if your jokes are bigoted people will call you a fucking bigot. That's how things work. Why are you rambling about dogmas and shit?
If you're an asshole and people call you an asshole, it's not a religious dogma. It's because you're an asshole.
Bigot, infidel, capitalist, traitor: various nouances of the same phenomenon.
No. Bigot had a specific meaning that is different from the specific meanings of the other words in your list.
My dude, idk what to tell you. You can joke about everything, including trans people and w/e.
But if your jokes are shit and bigoted, people will call you a shit bigot.
If you're angry at being called a shit bigot, stop making shit, bigoted jokes. It's not hard, vast majority of people are able to come up with actually funny jokes that don't punch down
There's tons of funny trans jokes that don't punch down or stem from a bigoted stereotype.
I have made no jokes and i'm surprised to not been banned. I'm not angry and i doesn't care at all about your beliefs that i found quite strange. So, from an external point of view, i try to understand the self consciousness of your religion.
Holy fuck you're dumber than a box of rocks.
This entire conversation stemmed from you saying something along the lines of 'can I joke about trans people' or something like that I can't be arsed to look back.
I told you yes, but if your jokes are shit then people will rightfully call you out.
You then went in this weird ass tangent about dogmas and shit like... My brother in Christ what kind of drugs are you on?
Make a joke with consequences ( stemming from been fired to stoned, it depends from culture ) is never a problem. You are tolerant like a taliban, only less violent. ( and i respect talibans ). The funny thing is that you think that people thinking different from you is dumb, so strange from a culture based on antiracism.
I don't think people who are different are dumb, I think you are dumb.
Speech always had consequences. Insult me and I will punch your face. Make bad 'jokes' about my trans friend and I will punch your face.
Welcome to the real world where people don't like assholes.
Ok, i surrender to your superior intelligence and i stop arguing.
You have learned nothing today.
You too
Bruh.
You ramble nonsensically like someone off of their meds. THAT is why you get downvoted - your comments add nothing of value to the conversation.
Nothing that is conforming to the ortodoxy.
gods are not real, I will let you believe without ridicule as long as it does not effect me. The major religions do though and need to be shamed for trying to make governments enforce their religious laws. I don't believe in tarot readings but I don't shame the people that do as it has no effect on me. Hell I'll even let someone do a reading and have fun with it. But when you say life starts at conception and that something goes against one of your gods and I need to stop them I will ridicule that belief.
Religion and gods are two different things. In this case we have a religion without gods. Religion is a natural state of humans regarding dogma and morale.
I agree religion and gods are different but very much disagree that it is a natural state. It came about from humans lack of understanding in the universe. That's why as time goes on there are less and less religious people.
Everything is a natural state in a materialistic world. And religion is too much common.