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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's an AIPAC stooge. Fuck him.

[–] imposedsensation 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It would be hilarious if Democrats lost the election because some ignorant 20-somethings care more about Gaza than America.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It would be tragic if Democrats lost the election because some corrupt boomers care more about continuing to enable genocide than America. Particularly after we finally had some goddamned hope.

[–] imposedsensation 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You're confused. Both sides are complicit, neither wants a resolution. Let them fight.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"Both sides" hate each other because the conflict is over a century old by now. Both sides use terrorism against each other too. That does not mean that both sides are in the right. Is the bully who is stealing the lunch money as morally justified to fight the bullied victim, as the bullied victim who is merely trying to stop the bully from stealing their lunch money?

Do you also look at other atrocities throughout history and blame the victim for hating and fighting against their oppressor?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Both sides are complicit

That doesn't mean we have to be.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

because ~~some ignorant 20-somethings~~ people of all ages with principles care ~~more~~ about human rights in Gaza ~~than America.~~

Fixed it for you.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And even if they didn't care about Gaza, do Americans really want a foreign country to have so much influence on their elections and politicians?

Americans who care about America should want to get rid of AIPAC.

[–] imposedsensation 1 points 8 months ago

Most of these posts and comments are foreign influence campaigns meddling in US elections, so do Americans really want foreign posters influencing their elections? Nope. Move along.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Obligatory reminder that Trump will be substantially worse for Gaza so it's still wrong

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I completely agree that not voting or voting for Trump would be cutting off your nose to spite your face.

What I'm saying isn't that people SHOULD do either. I'm saying that it's a bad idea to give people who would do such a thing a knife, figuratively speaking.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I find it interesting how the agency and duty is always with the voters to swallow a turd, rather that with the politicians to offer non-turds.

[–] imposedsensation 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe more voters than you think actually want the turd. Most Americans can't find Gaza on a map let alone give a shit about it.

But of those who do, faced with a choice between Israelis or Palestinians controlling that region, they're probably going to choose Israel every time. Neither side wants to coexist. And when you lose a war, you don't typically get much agency.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Entirely possible, but the argument strikes me... oddly Republican. As in it's on a surface level short-sighted, in that it's pandering to the base and calling it "will of the people", regardless of long term repercussions, and deep-level ideological, in that it anchors this "will of the people" on a presupposed silent majority, that just so happens to always agree with the party heads.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If the Democrats were supporting a Genocide by the KKK in Detroid would that prevent you from voting for them?

[–] imposedsensation 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You're not even making sense.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

They're trying to argue that we give less weight to tragedies that happen elsewhere as opposed to in your own backyard.

BUT federal government has less international power than they do in their own country (obviously) so it's an argument in bad faith. This is assuming that "Detroid" is meant to be Detroit and not a fictional planet great value Metroid.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm just wondering where the line is. I really thought everyone claiming to have morals would draw it at Genocide but apparently I'm the minority.

[–] imposedsensation 3 points 8 months ago

Put your own mask on first...