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The Verge Under Fire For Publishing Info About ‘Deadlock,’ Valve’s Secret Shooter (www.forbes.com)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If 10,000 people are doing something, it is NOT secret, and journalists must report on it for the general benefit of society.

Valve has their head in the clouds if they thought they could keep an informal secret among the population of a small town.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 10 months ago (3 children)

This isn't some grand conspiracy it's a closed beta for a video game. It's pretty normal to have an NDA or embargo agreement to get access. It sounds like valve just goofed the implementation. So yeah it's totally legal for them to post it, valve just might avoid giving them early copies in the future.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Totally. Verge just lost their access to breaking gaming news. They'll be blacklisted from now on.

That said, I don't know anyone who goes to The Verge for breaking news on gaming.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Polygon is Vox's gaming site and I imagine the shitlist will extend to all Vox properties. So the editors at Polygon now have another department to blame for their woes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no NDA for Deadlock, and anyone in it can invite anyone they want, as often as they want. It's not like Valve has no idea how to privately test their game. I think they made these decisions deliberately.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A bit of the eula says not to share info about the game, but you can literally back out without accepting the eula, and still play. So I don't know if I'd call it intentional, but there's definitely no legal reason they can't post whatever they want. They just got banned for it and might have damaged their relationship with valve somewhat. Depends on how much valve cares tho.

Edit: it wasnt even a eula apparently, just a "pls dont tell people ok?" Pop up. Thanks to the folks clarifying <3

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's no EULA just like there's no NDA. That pop up and a one sentence post about not sharing info about the game on the forum is all there is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Oh ok, I must've misread the article, thanks for clarifying :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

There was no NDA, and the EULA is skippable.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't know why you're getting crushed for this. It's not even just about this particular game; one of the major players in the largest entertainment industry on the planet is doing something highly unusual. That's in the public interest.

Lemmy users should know better, too, as The Verge was one of the leading reporting outlets on what happened on Reddit last year. Adversarial tech journalism is part of what they do.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Adversarial journalism is always spun as "journalism out of line" when this is the foundation of all journalism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah that's a fair point. I was mistaken thinking it was an actual eula they bypassed because valve didn't make it so you couldn't just close it, but it's not in any way legally enforceable. I thought at least it was one of those grey "technically correct but obviously an unintended loophole" kind of things, but they literally just said "pls don't tell". I'm mostly thinking that risking the connections you might have to valve aren't worth a scoop on a game still in what seems to be alpha or closed beta, but if I were valve I really don't think they can be that mad, everything the verge did was basically fair game if they were fine with a game ban.

I guess when I think of public interest I think of stuff like reddit selling user data without consent, or games using manipulative tactics. It's hard to feel like it makes sense to be aggressive with something as benign as "game we don't know much about yet, smells of dota/moba" But then again I'm not a game journalist, and I stand corrected.