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Is Donald Trump really trying to get out of debating Kamala Harris again? Or is it the opposite?

On Thursday, it seemed like the dust had finally settled. “The debate about debates is over,” said Michael Tyler, the Harris campaign communications director, in a statement. “Donald Trump’s campaign accepted our proposal for three debates—two presidential and a vice presidential debate.”

“Assuming Donald Trump actually shows up on September 10 to debate Vice President Harris, then Governor Walz will see JD Vance on October 1 and the American people will have another opportunity to see the vice president and Donald Trump on the debate stage in October,” the Harris campaign continued.

But now, Trump’s team claims that the Democrat lied when she said the two sides reached a debate agreement. At the moment, there is only one confirmed debate between the presidential nominees, to be held September 10 by ABC News.

Nevertheless, the Trump campaign’s press secretary Karoline Leavitt told the Daily Caller Friday that Trump will be doing three debates and Vance will be doing two.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I'm pissed that we're trapped with Trump for three fucking election cycles.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's like one of those shits where you keep wiping and it just doesn't go away

[–] [email protected] 41 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s like I’m wiping a marker

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Still poop. Still poop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

For the love of God, just buy a bidet.

Kids these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Coincidentally i just installed one last weekend. But the trauma of endless wipes will always be there unfortunately

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 44 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I've been trapped with Trump since the fucking '80s. For young people today, it would be the equivalent of 40 years of Logan Paul, with him being President at the end of it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It was funny when he complained that his campaign wasn't doing well here in New York City where he's from. Dude, we've been over your shit since before the TV shows when you were just another one of the scummy rich landlords none of us have ever liked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So much worse than Logan Paul though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, Trump wasn't this bad in the '80s and '90s. In fact one time in the '80s he even offered to pay for the funeral of a child killed by a bear (although there's no evidence that he ever actually did it).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

President Logan Paul

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully they come out with an anti aging vaccine and that mother fucker refuses to take it and we don't have to see him ever again. Who am I kidding, he would be the first in line.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

He needs a better doctor.

One who knows that an "anti aging vaccine" doesn't go through the earlobe.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My fear is that Trump actually died during COVID and what we've been watching since is an AI-driven hologram. We'd be getting this shit for eternity if so.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well maybe you should have voted for him last time.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The solution to Bad is not Worse

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I thought their logic was humorous.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No joke! All serious! And gloom!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At least we know Donald exists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Are you seriously taking a common expression of exasperation to push some very specious theories about whether that man actually existed? The cult leader 2000 years ago most definitely fucking did, any other conjecture is Elvis Presley is alive conspiracy horseshit people like you pretend to abhore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You really trying to advocate that Jesus Christ existed? Despite no proof at all? Might as well try to advocate that Deadpool is real.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What would you accept as proof?

https://www.history.com/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence

“These are all Christian and are obviously and understandably biased in what they report, and have to be evaluated very critically indeed to establish any historically reliable information,” Ehrman says. “But their central claims about Jesus as a historical figure—a Jew, with followers, executed on orders of the Roman governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate, during the reign of the Emperor Tiberius—are borne out by later sources with a completely different set of biases.

Or are you arguing there is no proof anyone existed prior to the 1800s? Oh sure there are documents, but that's not proof.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's documents saying that Medusa existed as well. There's documents saying Santa claus existed. Hell, in today's world, there's documents saying Indiana Jones existed. And you accept documents as proof 1800 years after the motherfucker supposedly existed?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Genius here can't tell the difference between documents created by historians and documents created to be fictional stories.

There's documents saying Santa claus existed

Saint Nicholas did in fact exist. He had no magic powers, was just a generally nice guy, and folklore was created around him after he died.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Not the point and you know it. Saint Nicholas wasn't flying around in a magic sleigh. And that's before questioning the "saint" part. Do you really think some dude that turned water to wine would be mad about jagerbombs?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

And that’s before questioning the “saint” part.

Well, he was a nice guy at least. He snuck into people's houses and left bags of gold so they wouldn't have to sell their daughters into slavery.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Having a real hard time understanding Jesus of Nazareth existed but Jesus God Incarnate didn't, huh?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

Historical evidence of a Jesus of Nazareth acting in ways that resemble a non-magical version of the New Testament is extremely underwhelming, to me. I don't have a pro-Christian or pro-Abrahamic bias.

I don't think any such figure existed, and was a wholesale invention.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Saint Nicholas wasn't flying around in a magic sleigh.

Agreed. And nobody here is arguing that Jesus was turning water into wine. If you read my post it specifically said: a Jew, with followers, executed on orders of the Roman governor of Judea, Pontius Pilate, during the reign of the Emperor Tiberius

When you're so anti-religion you loop around to sticking firmly to your personal beliefs and ignoring any evidence that disagrees with them...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because outside of those religious texts, there's 0 evidence to him existing at all. None.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Again, if you actually read my post, it specifically mentioned that religious texts are biased and therefore not credible, and the link mentions other historical documents that mention him existing.

But you saw a post disagreeing with your religious beliefs so you plugged your ears and tuned it out rather than risk hearing something that might challenge your (for some reason) deeply held beliefs.

We can agree Saint Nicholas was just some guy and a mythology was built up around him. We have a direct example of that happening. I don't know why the idea that a similar thing could happen to some other guy is so dangerous to your world view.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Saint Nicholas was a real, documented person, and by all accounts a good one at that. But there isn't a single bit of credible, contemporary evidence that Jesus existed at all. There are inscriptions mentioning Jesus and where he came from but they were hundreds of years after the time when he would have existed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Saint Nicholas was a real, documented person

According to you there's no "proof" of that, it's just things people wrote down, and that's not proof.

There are inscriptions mentioning Jesus and where he came from but they were hundreds of years after the time when he would have existed.

At least your admitting you bother to look at any evidence that disagrees with your religious beliefs. From my link earlier:

In chronicling the burning of Rome in A.D. 64, Tacitus mentions that Emperor Nero falsely blamed “the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But you saw a post disagreeing with your religious beliefs so you plugged your ears

No, it's more that I've come across a truly obnoxious person, so I block them on Lemmy. Bye.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's weird how it's always the religious fundamentalists that feel the need to tell you they are blocking you instead of just leaving the conversation.

"I'm an open minded intellectual, so I'm not listening to you anymore." Okay then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's weird how it's always the religious fundamentalists...

Yes, keep talking about yourself, dear.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's more evidence that Jesus existed than there is that I am a religious fundamentalist.

so I block them on Lemmy. Bye.

How did I know this was a lie?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

No proof? I can't be bothered with this idiocy. Read a fucking book about ancient Rome around 33 AD.

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