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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Sorry that was a rhetorical question: If Republicans support her then why would I vote for her?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Because the alternative is that much worse. Simple pragmatism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Both will continue allowing Gazan children to die 🤷

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But only one has encouraged Israel to "finish the job".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What has the current administration done to slow down the process?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's unfortunately not the right question for the situation the US is facing.

The US election is a binary choice, so there is nothing that matters other than understanding which administration would make the process worse, and doing whatever is needed to keep them out of power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What's worse than allowing Israel to walk over every "red line" without consequence and then killing children?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Pulling the trigger alongside Israel in the firing line.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  • Restoring the Spoils System we dismantled back in the 1800s because it was corrupt and filled with cronies.
  • Oppressing gays and minorities in the name of 'eliminating woke ideology', like what is all over Project 2025.
  • Forcing Christianity down non-believers' throats, like Project 2025 advocates for over and over and over again.
  • Enabling Russia to run roughshod over Ukraine.
  • Attacking people who look like immigrants, including forced deportations.
  • Forcing Culture-War Bullshit down our collective threats.
  • Attacks on the rights of women, transgenders, and gays.
  • Ignoring climate change.
  • Outlaw abortion.
  • Defund PBS.
  • Cut Food Stamps.
  • Push a law made by an anti-masturbationist in the 1800s...

Oh yeah.

  • Encouraging Israel to walk over every 'red line' without consequences...

Just so that you, the reader, know exactly what this poster is trying to get you to forget. They want you to throw your vote away. They are the bookish nerd girl working for the pretty but vile cheerleader to get the 51 Nerds to throw the election to the 49 Jocks by peeling off 3 of our votes. In fact, whenever you see posts like the one I'm replying to, remember. That's what they're trying to do. Make you one of the three dunces that let the 49 Jocks dictate to the 51 Nerds how things are going to go.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think Democratic leadership and many in the national party would be fine with these things 🤷

After all, they have no problem with killing children

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This should be seen as a violation of Rule 3 (Be Civil). The poster makes a particularly heinous claim, that Democrats as a whole are child murderers. It's just as wrong as Republicans saying we are a bunch of baby-murderers.

This poster is not here to engage in honest open debate. It's here to attack us and make us feel bad about ourselves, so we aren't as comfortable expressing our political ideology. It's here to make us ashamed of voting for the major party closest to our position. It's here to make enough of us sit out or vote third party so that the Republicans could win. Is it doing so to serve the interests of Putin and Xi? Is it doing so because it thinks this is really the best answer to the problems that face the country? Is it doing so because it wants to see it all burn down? It doesn't matter. Reader, if YOU want to ensure that you don't want Project 2025 to happen, do not give this bad-faith poster what it wants and vote third party or stay home.

PS: Democrats aren't killing kids. We actually do have problems with killing kids, but that's just as true when it's Hamas or Iran killing Israeli kids as it is when it's Israelis killing Palestinian kids. We just don't see a way out that makes this whole shitshow a fuckton worse. Keep that in mind as you read this bad-faith poster's words.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Lol you want to hide behind rules because you don't like my message.

I didn't say "all democrats," I mentioned a subset of the party membership

In any case, so many showed up to clap for Netanyahu that it's hard to think anything except that the party is perfectly OK with child killing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Do you think people here are stupid enough to buy this shit? If anything, you're just pushing more people to voting for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

You are actually the one encouraging their murder right now.... Not hard to see.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Actually no. One will not "allow" it, he will actively participate in it. Gleefully.

You don't give a shit about Palestinians. Stop using them as political pawns in your corny-ass, edgy teen-tankie bullshit. What you're doing is shameful.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

From the article.

We have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. That's to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable," said the letter, which was first reported by USA Today.

Remember what he did with TS clearance and his children. The alternative is a national security risk.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

You are on lemmy.ml. You love fascists. So you probably would vote trump anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

You're wasting your breath, it's no use trying to point out that their choices are quite literally conservative vs conservative+, they don't care, they don't want to hear it, facing the truth is too uncomfortable, so they'd much rather just keep their blinkers on and believe that their "team" is really progressive actually and there to protect them, and so they can leave their aspirations for change in their "safe" hands, despite everything in current reality, and history to boot, points to the contrary.

And they will fight to the death for their right to never consider the bigger picture and posture with their bare minimum efforts as if they've at the very least single handily saved the world.

The irony of how identical their self harming loyalty to their "team" is compared to those they claim to be the complete opposite of would be wildly hilarious if it wasn't so concerning.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

When the choice is conservative or conservative+, I'll choose the non-plus option. I don't like the circumstances, but I'll do whatever is needed to shift the overton window back towards a direction of sanity.

Progressive politics can't happen if radical conservative politics cause 10 years of societal regression in a single term.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

All true. I kinda suspect they are bots/trolls or something because they post at really weird times of day for North America. Unless they have pathetic social lives, they are probably in Asia or something 🤷 they also cooperate, or post from multiple accounts.

Moreover, their arguments are a bit circular and cannot go anywhere once they are accused of being OK with genocidal activity. They ignore facts and just focus on trashing the commenter

No hasbara though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I kinda suspect they are bots/trolls or something

Could definitely be, could also be that the propaganda is so efficient that many people can't see beyond it. Probably a bit of both.

No hasbara though

Small mercies ig lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Do... you not understand how voting works?