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I see this as an absolute win! The point of decentralized social media is that discussion happens across many different linked sites. It doesn't work if lemmy.world is the only big site out there.
Sure have your beef with the admins of another server, but why get upset that discussions are happening there?
It’s only really a problem when comments get removed or people get banned because they have opposing views.
Its about tankies banning non tankies.
So are non tankies. Tankies don't have a monopoly on being closed minded, being jerks, etc. lemmy.world is really bringing out the misanthropy in me today, for example.
Edit: Ugh, was just reminded about some of the things the tankies are saying. There's no comparison.
Yeah, like banning the KKK makes me the intolerant one.
The news@lemmyworld mods ~~admins~~ have been banning people for criticizing the MBFC bot, so yeah, let's just keep using bans until this place looks like Reddit again.
Edit: mods, not admins
mods, not admins. you confused me there lol
Have you ever had a short look at the modlog? Users getting banned from 10+ unrelated communities with reason "liberal". All because some hater is a mod to multiple communities. Like what good does that serve?
Pro palestinian comments get removed on lemmy.world. Some people have the same argument as you but about diametrically opposing idealogy
I have not had a single Pro-Palestinian comment get removed from world, and I've had some pretty confrontational conversations in support of Palestinians.
That's been my experience as well
There's definitely not a concerted effort by the admins to suppress Palestinian support. What I'm hearing is you said something dumb that's technically "pro palestinian", and it got removed for being dumb.
Have an example? It should be in the modlog.
https://lemmy.world/post/18857058
As the top comment points out, they banned Linkerbaan. You could argue it was a public service.
I don't agree with that user on most of the stuff but when it comes to israel you guys make them look like a normal person.
That's a lot of context to read through. Thank you for the link.
It’s important that one group of people should not be able to monopolize the discussion. I believe it’s important to the long-term health of the fediverse even if I don’t agree with some of those groups.
But then it's centralized on one website and the person who owns that domain has control over the whole
I just feel like the whole problem the fediverse is trying to solve is admins slowly selling out and then having to move somewhere else. Having one website still has that problem of switching costs if you want to go somewhere else, you lose access to everything in that sphere of content. If the sh.itjust.works admins go crazy and start moderating in a way you don't like, you can go sign up on another instance and not lose any of the communities or people you used on your former instance.
That is literally the way it works now. As an example - go to https://phtn.app/. Photon is a UI for lemmy. That specific website is hosted by the developer and you can log into any instance. I think Alexandrite and Voyager webapps act the same, but I haven't tried them, so can't be sure atm.
That's because you've chosen an instance that is more heavily curated. You can check which instances yours has defederated from at sh.itjust.works/instances
But if you look at the same page on mander.xyz/instances my admins are only defederates from threads.net and burggit.moe, so I already experience the fediverse as you describe.
How do you deal with CSAM and hate speech instances? Those are generally the ones everyone wants to defederate from
While I agree that an IPFS solution could be quite resilient, I'm not sure that the average person is willing to put up the resources or risk of hosting content. CSAM, copyright, etc, all become more of an individual risk that you're relying on moderators to mitigate for you. (Rather than the risk going to the server hosts typically doing the moderation covering their own ass)
Additionally, while there may be decent representation of people willing to do some small amount of hosting of services (myself included) on lemmy, I think making this mandatory really limits the growth of your social media platform.
I think you could achieve what you're looking for right now by self-hosting a private lemmy instance with signups closed, and this wouldn't close you out of existing federating platforms.
Isn't that how it is already.