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just wait til you see what trump does.
So we agree: both sides of this election support the ongoing genocide being committed by Israel.
do you want more genocide or less genocide?
Inb4 "I wAnT nO gEnOcIdE" like it's some kind of clever gotcha response that shows anything but their whole white bougie kid politics having ass.
I want you to stop pretending that she'll do anything to even slow it down. I encourage you to vote for her and Walz because it serves our country better than Trump and the couch fucker, but admit that the two parties' positions on Palestine are materially the same. We can't change anything until we acknowledge the problem.
Because not stopping a roll towards a wall is exactly the same as hitting the fucking accelerator.
Your politics would see us Palestinians all massacred on the altar of "well the dems would have been the same anyways!"
They are being exterminated now by a Democrat.
More dead since before the Nakba. More homes destroyed and more refugees than 1948. And you want me to clap and cheer for the party responsible for 200k dead innocent people.
This is a second Nakba, somehow even worse, and you want me to vote for the party enabling it.
Seems like the genocide is already accelerating, so this is also a false choice. Either way it will be more.
I'm not saying "don't vote for Harris" nor am I saying "don't vote at all". I support Harris, but pretending she doesn't support Israel's genocide or she'll somehow slow it down is just ignorant of reality.
We are watching the destruction of the Palestinian people in real time and the people able to stop it are entirely unwilling to care.
you are completely ignoring Trump's track record vis a vis Israel and Palestine. He has been much more fanatical in his support of Israel than any other president, even other republican presidents. For example:
Give me an answer other than "Trump is worse". Of course he is.
This is about how Harris could be better. She could be pushing for sanctions on Israel. She could be saying she'll stop supplying the genocide. She could acknowledge that the genocide is a genocide.
She does none of these things because she doesn't care.
Yes, vote for her (I will be), but acknowledge that the lesser of two evils is still evil.
I want zero genocide
The Democrats want genocide
The Republicans want genocide
I want zero genocide
me too, but that's not an option.
so, are you going to vote for more genocide, or less genocide?
Let's put this in perspective. bibi and Isreal is committing Genocide. Genocide has happened and is still happening. Americans have provided weapons of war and continue to provide weapons of war to Isreal as they have all their allies. The only thing America has failed to do is pressure bibi to stop. Do they have that power? I wouldn't know. Some people claim to know.
In 2024 we aren't voting for genocide. We are voting for candidates all claiming to know the exact right thing to do on this particular issue. Will any of this result in turning back the clock on what's been done? No. Should the united states president be able to midgate the continued conflict? Possibly.
I'm going to remind everyone again. America is not the world police. You don't want them as the world police. You can continue your campaign against the democrats all you want but please. I beg you. Look at who your allies are in that fight. bibi himself would cum his pants to see the orange dictator take office.
Why?
because our two party and single choice voting systems suck. But it's the world we live in and we have to do the best we can with it.
so if your only two options are more genocide or less genocide, which are you going to choose? And if your answer is "none of the above" remember that effectively counts as a half vote for more genocide.
Which side is less genocide?
Remember, The number of dead, The number of refugees, And the number of destroyed buildings, all outnumber what occured in 1948. By several times.
This is the worst ethnic cleansing the region has seen in centuries. Even Saddam racked up less kills when he was gassing Kurds.
Okay but it doesn't seem like that's a viable option right now
It is a viable option. There is nothing preventing the Democrats from opposing genocide
Biden could do so tomorrow. Harris could then continue that policy
yes and we should keep pressuring them to do so. But this post is about comparing Harris to Trump, and how they do not have the same policy. I'd much rather try to convince Harris to adjust her position than Trump
which side is against it?
At this point, saying Trump would be worse for Palestine is like saying that Himmler would have been worse for the Jews. Possibly technically correct, but also a poor attempted genocide denial.
More have died and more have been made refugees, in the last year; than during the Nakba. This has been the deadliest year for Palestinians, by an order of magnatude, in modern history.
So take your "Trump would be worse" bullshit. Wrap it in sandpaper. And shove it up your ass.
What send more?
the guy who:
yeah, more.
So just like what is happening now.
Again how can it get worse for those in Gaza?
If you genuinely don't think a Trump Presidency could make the situation any worse, you have no right to talk over anyone who's actually been paying the miniscule-est amount of attention it would take to know better.
Signed, a Palestinian American.
Fuck your privileged ass trying to justify letting us burn.
Try me. How does it get worse than famine, constant bombings, plague, and now polio.
Ignoring what's happening now doesn't help anything.
America joining in because Trump doesn't think the jews are finishing the job fast enough?
West Bank being fully annexed and the 200,000 Palestinians who've been able to hold on thus far being deported to Gaza for more bombings or to Jordan where the royal family was already selling them out even before a civil war broke out over it leading to the king's assassination?
Trump intentionally provoking war in the entire region because his followers are part of a fucking death cult and think it'll cause the biblical battle of Armageddon and make their sky daddy come home?
Evangelicals convincing Trump to begin a program to settle christians in the region to refound the crusader kingdom of Jerusalem?
Have you fucking read any of Project 2025, use your damn imagination and odds are they've already come up with even worse and adopted it as official platform policy.
Get off your soapbox and prevent the greater harm, or quit pretending you have any business calling yourself an ally while being a whiny wilted little cunt ass about how it's everyone else's job to make you want to for your own feel goods.
you don't have to ignore what's happening now to imagine many ways it could get worse.
ever heard of things like concentration camps and mass executions?
That is what's happening there...
*citation needed
How would you describe them being moved into specific areas, bombed and starved?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sde_Teiman_detention_camp
"Multiple released Palestinian detainees have testified they and others, including children, were subjected to rape, gang-rape, other forms of sexual violence as well as psychological and physical torture by both male and female Israeli soldiers and medical staff."
"In one highly publicized incident, leaked CCTV footage showed Israeli soldiers gang raping a Palestinian detainee with a metal rod that caused him serious injuries to his anus and lungs."
this isn't complicated. more of literally everything.
What's worse than a genocide we're allowing to happen...
you are either supremely naive or a blatant trump shill. Israel still has many cards left to play in the genocide deck like cultural reprogramming, concentration camps, and mass executions.
Do you think it’ll get better for those in Ukraine if Trump became king?
famously part of Gaza?
Yeah those people aren't dying in the right region of the world for you to care about I guess
but what about this other thing
So no actual argument against Gaza genocide?
Weren’t you saying the two parties are the same?
same on gaza
You have the right to ask how things get better for Palestinians if Harris takes office. While you're at it please take time to ask how do things get better for Americans if trump takes office. The US president doesn't just set the tone for Palestine. They have influence all over the world.
If Harris wins and the day after the election Isreal signs a treaty won't you just think for a second what that means
Edit: at the very least acknowledge bibi would like nothing more then to see donald trump in the white house, coward.
BUT WHAT ABOUT
The top level comment this is all from is
None of your argument is refuting that.
Then again not expecting much in a meme community*****___*
How dare I ask what Americans will do as the result of an American election.
Edit: why are Palistian lives in the hands of a foreign nation to begin with?
Edit2: American hands. Sorry if you haven't brushed up on your history but our track record is not great friend. You want to see America do better? It's starts by not being ambivalent about every other political issue going on in this nation.
Also it's fine if you hate America, if you hate everything we stand for; you hate Kamala and you would like to see me piked personally but have the decency to look me in the eyes when you impale me. I'll see right past you.
I'm sure you can use your imagination.