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Isn't this something that the fediverse was explicitly designed to support?
We're making fun of them for making use of one of the foundational features of the platform?
If they don't like it there, they can move again. And again. Or host their own instance.
Idk what this creepy vicarious butthurt is about, or why it has become so popular.
Circle jerking against vegans is a pasttime of the Internet denizens
Yeah, but it's a pretty pathetic passtime. At least find a good reason, rather than doing literally the thing you want them to do.
Like, insulting them for leaving is just as bad as them crying that their toxic behavior scares people away. It makes no sense.
I mean this kind of a perfect example of doing the thing where you blow shit up over an extremely pedantic issue which is at best tangentially related to the core ethic, specifically because you view nuance itself as a threat. As far as purity tests dissolving into self parody, I'm not sure there's a better example for veganism.
And I say this as a person who otherwise sympathizes with vegans, but often finds them insufferable. Self awareness is the vaccine to self parody.
People do not understand vegans. As cats can be healthy on a plant-based diet with taurine which is supported by science yet people are saying we're animal abusers spreading misinformation lol
this reads like cope.
Because it is
Do you just not believe vegan cats exist?
https://news.uoguelph.ca/2021/03/u-of-g-researchers-first-to-study-health-effects-of-vegan-diets-on-cats/
Supposedly they'd die right? Not live long healthy lives? Or live longer than cats on a standard diet?
Pretty much, yeah. And I'm not convinced by your news article either as the study described relies on the reporting of pet-owners. Vegan cat owners forcing such a diet on their pet aren't exactly people I trust to be 100% honest about the wellness of said cat.
That's the problem, just because they don't immediately drop dead doesn't make the diets any better for them.
Like a family camping trip, classic fun. Pitch a tent, start a fire, roast some vegans and sing kumbaya
Some people are not mature enough to handle the vegan perspective.
Nah, eating and using animals is the extremist way of doing things.
In theory this is how it should work, but in practice the toxic people tend to move to general purpose more laissez-faire places like .world or .ml, which makes de-federating and cutting off 30% of all users a difficult decision for anyone trying to have a community.
The answer is less centralization, but that can't be forced. beehaw.org (for example) made the decision to cut off .world and they are better for it. But they are a large-ish instance in their own right.
So if you dont agree with someone they are an extremist, got it.
You are aware vegan cats exist right? Like its already a thing, and its being studied.
https://news.uoguelph.ca/2021/03/u-of-g-researchers-first-to-study-health-effects-of-vegan-diets-on-cats/
Y'all are so confidently wrong about stuff its crazy, and then y'all pat yourselves in the back for all grouping up and agreeing together.
Just because a lot of people are on one side of a position does not make it the right position, you must be aware there is more to think about right?
I didn't say extremist I said toxic but really anyone who's poorly socialized will go where they're allowed, which in Lemmy terms means general catch-all instances with loose moderation like .world and .ml.
One study estimated 1% of cat owners feed their cat a vegan diet. Why do you think that might be? Are they all extremist animal abusers? Or is it possible you had an assumption that turned out to be wrong and now don't know how to reconcile?
ok, you already lost me
Yes, if you are not feeding your pet a proper diet and are allowing it to suffer, you are an animal abuser.
That's a stretch, but even assuming it's true, why do you care enough about their community to frown upon it?
It's just disguised metadrama. They joined the instances this instance doesn't like.
And so they're moving, and somehow y'all are... Upset about it???? Make it make sense
I don't see anyone upset about it.
Making fun of them, yes. But not upset.
Making fun of them for doing what you want?
Or do you want them to stay?
How do you come to either of those conclusions?
They're leaving.
Y'all are making fun of them for leaving.
If you want them to leave, as people often told them to do, why are you making fun of them for it? Why do you care where they go?
If you don't want them to leave, why are you being mean to them?
That's not why people make fun of them.
No. You're missing the point.
Interesting article though.
With some people you cant win with them no matter what you do.
Treating vegans like the enemy because you do not understand them. Why is it so hard to critically think about why the vegans are so committed to their cause?
Nobody but toxic people like other toxic people. You're not above anyone, you're just toxic.
I do not harm animals if that’s toxic to you then let’s part our ways.
You're so cool Not toxic "at all".
I didn't want to moderate the lemmyworld community anymore and I was planning to delete the vegancanada one anyways. But you will claim I'm making excuses, so lets agree to disagree.
Yes. Let's ignore all of the other toxic bullshit on that list lol.
How many other comms are you going to be banned from? Only one to go for a 20 count!
The other times I got banned was because I called out one the developers of Lemmy Nutomic for being transphobic when they used the term "biological men" and the Dubvee instance regularly bans leftists for being "too extremist"
If you curious about the situation, here is the post.
Dubvee Instance modlogs
But I'm toxic, so you shouldn't listen to me.
Yes, you are toxic.
Be better.
Yes and no. The theory is that each instance is supposed to be more specialized, kind of like the old BBS that used to be rampant on the internet. If you are moving to an instance just because people disagree with you instead to have more discussion over a specific topic that is not really in line with the purpose of the fediverse.