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[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It might help if your country isn't paranoid about such made up concepts as "cultural appropriation". :)

Which is kinda amusing, since USA is literally made up of several different cultures.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The concept of cultural appropriation annoys me so much. Everywhere outside America people tend to love when their culture is appreciated by others that are not part of it.

It's one thing when such culture was created as a safe space for a certain demographic that couldn't be part of stuff from other cultures before - it's understandable that they would hate to see that thing they created for themselves be taken over by the same people that kept them from other things before.

But then at some point someone claimed that participating in things from other cultures at all is bad and all the american whites who consider themselves allies thought "well it's not really my place to say anything to oppose this" so instead they parroted that sentiment, not realizing it was also not their place to say anything to enforce that. In the end, we once again have the whites overriding the opinions of folks from other cultures - this time in a desparare effort to defend them (from something they see no need to be defended from).

Just look at what happened to Speedy Gonzales in Mexico for a good example of this.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What a lot of people hate is when their culture is white washed, and especially when it's later on commercialized.

I was watching a video the other day about a neighborhood in the UK that spawned a genre of music out of the hard times they lived through. That music brought them some prosperity, but it also brought the attention of the government and hipsters. They started cleaning up the area, so more people wanted to move there. So they start cleaning it up more. Slowly but surely the area was fully gentrified and that culture is all but erased, and the area is now just another area that nobody can afford to live in.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it seems people in this thread don't actually know what cultural appropriation is. They seem to think that consuming outside culture, and taking inspiration from it, is cultural appropriation. Cultural appropriation is when a foreign culture takes a culture, or aspect of it, and then positions themselves as the owners of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes a term loses its intended meaning when it is misused enough. I myself have been accused of cultural appropriation before for creating a character of another culture in a video-game I was developing. Any time I see anyone being accused of it on the internet is also something similar.

I agree that actual cultural appropriation is bad, but the term has been misused so much that it is more often associated with simply consuming cultures that you've not inherited.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I agree, I think we need to work on a new term for it and weening off the use of the term in academic/professional circles, which will bleed into the lay population.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So like what Christianity did with the Pagans?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yes, things like turning the myriad winter holidays of the pagans into christmas is appropriation. Promoting Elvis as the King of Rock is appropriation, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Sounds like text book capitalism to me. What a fun system.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

America has a lot of cultures and does a good job of blending them together in new, interesting ways. But one thing that America doesn't have is history in depth, like most other countries. So each culture is treated as an identity by Americans because it's how we get our history.

A common phrase in America is "I'm part (other nationality)" and that is shorthand for "this is what traditions I am familiar with and the foods I frequently eat." Folks love their culture because it gives them their own personal history of their family running from somewhere and finding a chance here. Folks hold onto the adventures of Grandma and Pa as their own. So it makes sense that those same stories are what help inform us that taking something a culture has made and calling it your own name upsets quite a few people.

America is sensitive about cultural appropriation because few folks want to lose their own culture.