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Five years ago, if you had asked me if Israel would be committing terrorist attacks across Palestine, Lebanon and beyond, I would have said absolutely not.
I would have been wrong, even back then, but jesus fucking christ, what an absolute shambles.
How my government supports this state-sponsored terrorism is beyond me.
Hezbollah are enemy combatants. These were ordered by and for Hezbollah. Israel isn't targeting non-combatants.
They verified that all of the devices were in the possession of Hezbollah before they detonated them?
Is what why their pager terrorism killed a child and caused 2000+ injuries, including dismemberment of other children?
Now they just repeated it, I'm sure with the same disregard for living people they have already shown.
What do you think about Hezbollah reopening the hostilities back in October? Do you believe they could have prevented all this bloodshed if they just kept the border in peace?
What do you think about Israel never ceasing hostilities?
For real, read a book every once in awhile.
But Israel did cease hostilities, right untill Hezbollah started them again...
No they didn't. They very specifically never stopped actions in countries they aren't at war with and notably as the article states THEY WERE PLANTING BOMBS IN CIVILIAN ITEMS again in countries they aren't at war with.
These bomb-planting shenanigans only began after Hezbollah restarted the hostilities
Also, why do you consider devices used for military communications as civilian items (in all caps no less)
This is the second round of bombings with seemingly benign objects.
They are quite literally bought OTC they are in fact civilian objects, that's why terrorists use them....
Seriously, a book.. once.
These weren't bought 'over the counter', these were bought en masse from the producer and specifically meant for military use
You're fucking dumb there's thirty on eBay and more on Amazon, it's literally an OTC open band civilian tx/tx device. It's even in their fucking wiki and they released a press release about it. Jfc, just use Google dude.
What's next you think they were targeting people with "military grade beepers?"
Legit a book, once ever.
Ed: they weren't purchased by the manufacturer, icon even has to come out prior to the bobbing and say they believe there were counterfeit ones or there and it turns out the isrealis made them.
You seem very, very focused on this 'read a book' thing. Feel free to elaborate how you think that relates
OT: they were pagers meant for military use. It seems that the devices that exploded were exclusively in the possession of people working for Hezbollah. Implying that the Mossad put bombs in devices that innocent people could buy on eBay or Amazon is a complete fabrication or, at best, completely delusional
Books educate, you need education. Pick a subject, start reading.
That's not at all proven and the 2800 injured seems pretty high to all be Hezbollah huh?
I didn't imply that at all, again there's that reading thing again boss.
In this instance just read the fixing article and that alone should dissuade you from this stupid easily proved wrong goddamn stance. Just read the article, once or in your case probably twice or more.
I'll drop the 'read books' thing, that doesn't seem to go anywhere
If you have any information on people getting blown up by pagers they bought online, please share. I just read (sorry) in an article that the Mossad had been running the factory where Hezbollah ordered theirs for at least two years, apparently shipping out loads of 'normal' versions to keep the cover going strong.
Why would that seem high to you?
Holy whataboutism Batman.
It's whataboutism to say someone shouldn't have started the fight in the first place?
The "fight" started with the colonization of Palestine, the theft of indigenous land, and the expulsion of half the native populace. Naming a random date or event in the past couple of years as the "start" of this conflict is brazenly dishonest.
Every year, Israel expands its land seizures in occupied Palestine, but for some reason you don't count that as sustaining hostilities. Sounds an awful lot like you're willing to excuse Israeli terrorism while holding others to a different standard.
Would you say that because of your personal understanding of the history, you'd consider any act of Hezbollah against Israel as justified, and any act of Israel to stop them as unjustified?
No, I condemn all attacks against civilians. Hard to imagine, I'm sure, for someone who sees only one belligerent's citizens as human.
But I am pointing out the ludicrous misrepresentation of history that Hezbollah "started" any aspect of this conflict. Hezbollah was created in response to Israel's invasion of Lebanon. Israel invaded Lebanon because the PLO was launching attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon. The PLO was in Lebanon and before that in Jordan because they were driven out of their native homeland and made refugees due to the colonization of Palestine.
There is no aspect of this conflict that does not tie directly back to the violent disappropriation and explusion of the Palestinian people from their land. The conflict is and has always been about theft of land and homes, which continues unabated through the present day.
And do you think Hezbollah restarting the hostilities after almost two decades of de facto ceasefire was helpful for the civilians? Which civilians have gained anything from it? The dead?
And do you think the colonization of Palestine, the establishment of an apartheid regime and the subsequent genocide of Palestinians was helpful?
You are defending the murder of children.
I'm condemning starting a war in which children are going to die
Good, we should all be condemning israel
Are you living in some Bizarroworld where it's Israel that broke the ceasefire with Hezbollah back in October?
Are you living in some bizaroworld were wide spread terrorist attacks are ok?
GEE I WONDER WHAT ISRAEL WAS DOING BACK IN OCTOBER
Before they were attacked by Hamas in the south and subsequently Hezbollah in the north? Please elaborate. You can stay in all caps if you want
Before they were attacked by Hamas, they were in the process of committing genocide.
They deserved October 7. And they deserved to be attacked by Hezbollah for escalating that genocide.
Follow your leader, nazi scum.
Your opinion seems quite irrelevant for those of us who want peace. It seems you want to put a genocide on anyone you think 'deserves it'. People like you will make sure this conflict can only get worse
Israel started the fight in 1982. Hezbollah was formed in response.
How many thousands of children have been slaughtered by Israeli troops?
If you want to be pedantic, and you're talking only about this specific attack, children were killed in these pager/walkie-talkie blasts too. Are they enemy combatants to you?
Don't be a genocide apologist.
Doesn't really matter if they weren't targeted if they still ended up dead.
So, like, are Israeli reservists fair game for terror attacks?
If they're on active duty, they're legitimate military targets. If they're on inactive duty, they're considered civilians.
But if they are active duty and have military comms, it's just called an "attack", not a "terror attack", even if the attackers are otherwise terrorists.
And your evidence that Israel only targetted active duty Hezbollah combattants?
You know you can just not type right? These thoughts that just stream into your head, they don't need to be shared. You can also read sources and understand that "military comms" can't accurately be targeted by this attack because of the very nature of radio. Nobody is logging into a badguy frequency and being targeted and identified. Thats not how any of this could possibly work.
Israel put bombs in pagers and radios and secretly sold them to Hezbollah. The only people who therefore would have had them were people Hezbollah gave them to to coordinate with. You can't really get more targeted than that. There's not some magic Jewish radio waves blowing up civilian radios lol.
Except that these pagers were distributed to more than just hezbollah. AUB (American university of Beirut) medical workers had them too, for example.
So Israel planted explosives in known communication devices, that could easily be tracked or also had pinpoint tracking technology included with the explosive, then deliberately waited until the intended targets could cause collateral damage to unarmed civilians to set them off? And you argue this is different from terrorism in what way?
Just anyone in an airplane or bus or subway with them
Zios have been using terrorism for 75+ years with full imperial support.