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[–] [email protected] 140 points 7 months ago (5 children)

That graph is so misleading. Makes it look like almost all the users disappeared but the Y axis only covers a small range at the top.

[–] [email protected] 85 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The full range is about 5.5%. So while it is misleading, a 5% drop in a graph that consistent isn't nothing. Something substantial absolutly changed

[–] [email protected] 32 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe whole Instance that went offline.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

That's my guess to

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Cool then it should be 5.5% of the visual space for it to not be misleading. But it’s represented much larger. And OP is (edit to sound less mean) not updating the post sooo…

I call shade

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. Not the over a million that it looks like at a glance.

The user count isn't helpful anyway, active users is a much better measure.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I captured the graph with the number after the decrease at the bottom right to try to show the number of lost users, but I see where you come from

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

If you saw why people would criticise it then you’d… edit the post, recapture the graph with an accurate visual representation including the zero on the Y axis?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Well...

  • that's how the website displayed the graph when I took that screenshot, I'm pretty sure you can't modify the axis
  • I'm not on my computer at the moment, editing is the most I can do right now
  • if you can capture the graph with 0 on the Y axis, please post it below and I'll update the picture
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's the only way to demonstrate the fall, of you did it at scale it would've even be noticeable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

5% is noticeable unless the graph is under 20 pixels tall. Even then, dithering or antialiasing techniques could make it visible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are people here who didn't even notice the axis and are confused. How do you expect everyone to notice a 5% drop lol.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Well if they didn't even notice an axis on a graph, they might be too stupid for a graph...

My point was only to say that 5% is very mich visible on a 0-100% graph.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

My point is that it is hardly visible and doesn't show the exact numbers properly. I prefer the current style of graph for showing sudden changes if the previous data points isn't that important in the context. But everyone has their preference I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Or just inform the other adults to consult the axis for clarification.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Lies, damned lies and statistics.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

no it's not?

you can see the axes and op even mentions that it's a 5% drop

the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I edited the title after their comment, it wasn't that clear at the beginning

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

In my classes on analytics, we were taught to prefer using normalised axes starting at 0 to more accurately put changes into perspective.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

the graph is clearly just fitted to the data

That's the problem. It's heavily skewed when compared to the greater overall engagement statistics.