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Kamala Harris won politicaly engaged voters, but lost voters who don't follow politics.
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So, we should elect Donald Fucking Trump instead? Is that your conclusion?
Who said anything about electing Trump? The only people that say, but Trump are the liberals that think you've only got two options. There's a lot of us that did not vote for top of the ticket and voted downline, top of the ticket was garbage, regardless of which fascist you decided to support
You're an idiot if you think that not voting for Harris means you didn't implicitly vote for Trump.
There were two viable candidates in this election, because that's how the US election system works. A 3rd party will never win until the entire system changes. Full stop.
You know what makes for a viable candidate, people voting for them. Liberals claim to support a 3rd party but not until they are viable. They essentially want other people to do the work for them so they can hop on someone else's bandwagon and claim this is what they always wanted
Is it really how that works? No way! Ive literally never heard anyone say that! Definitely not over and over in this thread or anything!
Thanks internet stranger for solving the third party problem! Not all hero's wear capes!
I can go ahead and call 2028 for you now.
It’s gonna be the Dem or Rep nominee.
It is binary. If you believe another outcome is likely, let’s bet money.
Kalama lost bc voters for who voting is a real burden didn't show up to vote. They are poor and likely people of color. Fuck off with blaming people.
Hey I’ll likely be fine. Better off than the people you identified in your comment.
I’m a cis white male who makes ~$250k/yr.
The ones who sat at home are likely going to be much worse off.
At least it’s gonna be very hard to make the brain dead “both sides” argument over the next 4 years.
opinion discarded
Sounds about right.
It’s just too much to expect lots of you to simply evaluate an idea on its merits.
See you in 2028 when the Dem or Rep wins again.
appeal to futility, false dichotomy 🤓
Funny. I was told that was a false dichotomy before the most recent election too.
Somehow I just continue being proved right. This is my cross to bear.
wow, dogshit party will get elected in the hitlerite country, amazing insight, I can see why you get paid the big bucks
Wait, so now it’s not a false dichotomy?
Cherry picking, I said it was an appeal to futility, as well as a false dichotomy. There's plenty of other outcomes besides one of the two warmonger parties winning- like elections get cancelled due to Biden launching nukes on Jan 6 '25 to stop the steal. Just because one of the shitty parties is obviously going to win it's still a worthwhile endeavor to oppose them, rather than just accepting whatever garbage they serve up.
Yeah and a giant meteor could crush me tonight in my sleep.
Anyway, see you tomorrow.
I can understand why you as one of the primary beneficiaries of a system of exploitation would be reluctant to upend it, but it seems it has removed any capacity to imagine a better outcome, let alone work towards it.
Those who don't move don't notice their chains.
It's binary because voters keep it that way
It literally doesnt though. Its because of how our votes are tallied, First Past the Post. If a third party ever reached viability, theyd just split the same half of voters with whichever large party theyre closer to
Sure. Agreed.
That doesn’t change the fact.
I made no claim about the mechanics of it. Only the outcome.
Why aren't you working to replace First past the post voting in your state so there can be more then two options?
We have a voting system that mathematically devolves into a two party system. If you think voting third party will change anything the way the system is set up right now, you're naive.
So... change the voting system? It's not like it's right before an election and there is no time...
No, the republicans won all three branches so that’s a lie.
I hope the democrats move hard right next election to target people who actually vote and don’t just sit it out.
If they do, they will lose... Again
Pretty much why y'all lost 2016 and 2024 but go off
Dems moved hard right this election and it cost them
If you want the Dems to move hard right then you are a Republican