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The Biden administration has moved to forgive $4.7 billion in U.S. loans to Ukraine as part of a $9.4 billion loan package authorized by Congress in April to support Ukraine’s government during its war with Russia.

State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller confirmed the decision, which Congress could still block.

The Senate is set to vote on a disapproval motion introduced by Senator Rand Paul, though bipartisan support for Ukraine remains strong.

President Biden is expediting aid ahead of his term’s end, amid concerns President-elect Trump may restrict future support.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Infuriating.

US borrowers can't get their loans forgiven, but Biden's going to be Ukraine's personal Santa Claus for the next month and half, even though we've already allocated hundreds of billions to their war.

[–] [email protected] 96 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yes, it's Biden that prevented student loan forgiveness.....are you fucking stupid?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dude this just isnt the way. Whether you like it or not a lot of people feel this way, and it permeates a lot of things. "Im suffering so why am i last?". I agree that these are two different issues but lets stop calling people stupid for not understanding.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

I kind of agree with calling people stupid. So much of the reasons people give for disliking what Biden has accomplished are straight up lack of awareness or misinformation. If someone makes a choice without awareness, possibly intentionally unaware, or is unable to break out of a misinformation rut, what do you call it?

I really don’t think most Republicans are as malicious, spiteful, racist, or corrupt as the high profile Republican leaders, nor that they intentionally vote for that: they’re just being stupid

The last few years of fact checking, reality checking, reasoned debate has gone nowhere. What do you call it when someone refuses to look outside their preexisting beliefs, regardless of how much proof? Maybe calling them in it will get their attention. Maybe stooping to their level is the only thing that will

[–] [email protected] 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Biden's forgiven the loans that he has the power to forgive. Judges and the House have blocked most of his loan forgiveness moves.

If we can allocate billions of dollars to Israel, we can certainly forgive some of Ukraine's loans.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

~~If we can~~ The state shouldn't allocate billions of dollars to Israel, ~~we can~~ but they should certainly forgive some of Ukraine’s loans.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

True and true.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Apropos Santa Claus.

Every time the democrats are in power, the Americans need to suffer. Why? Because the republicans decided so about 40 years ago. It's called the two Santas strategy.

http://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You must get angry a lot, not understanding how so much of the world works.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nope, just old enough to have zero patience for self inflicted stupidity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I feel like we've seen plenty of historical examples of how this all works by now, from Rumsfeld shaking Hussein's hand in 1983 when the US was going into debt to fund their war, and then throughout the 90's when we went further into debt to fund Clinton's "peacekeeping" actions (which actually were wars) and Bush I's wars, and then we got lied into war again by Bush II and spent trillions on that, tacking on further wars in Syria and elsewhere, but you all are content to ignore history because your preferred news network tells you to. Going off of history, it's only a matter of time before we find out we were lied to about Ukraine or the hundreds of billions we were kind enough to take out on credit in order to gift them was largely misused.

And as much as you care about democracy, you don't have any empathy whatsoever for the people that US Banks and the Pharma industry are at war with, our own citizens.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And yet we keep electing the people that let it happen. You can't blame capitalism alone. The citizenship is letting it happen. This most recent election is proof.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

You should just stick to derby skating.