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[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How about we just do away with unencrypted messaging all-together?

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It would already be mostly that way, but Apple, being the POS company that it is, refuses to switch their messaging system to RCS like everyone else. Apple wants to use only their proprietary imessage and it's not compatible with everyone else. They are why all messages aren't encrypted.

They're also being forced/pressured into changing this in the near future, I believe.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Wrong on both counts; Apple does support RCS, and RCS doesn’t support encryption. Google messages can be encrypted, but that is done using a proprietary handshake that Google implemented on top of the RCS protocol.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 4 points 3 months ago

That doesn't change the fact that Apple implemented RCS after a lot of kicking and screaming. They also refused to make iMessage portable or pose any viable alternative.

They're finally working with Google to allow RCS encryption with iPhones at some point in the future IIRC. However, Apple is majorly to blame for delays.

[–] crossover@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My understanding is that Apple have implemented RCS, which funnily enough, does not even support encryption yet. Google had to roll their own proprietary add-on.

https://www.macrumors.com/2024/09/18/end-to-end-encryption-rcs-messages/

[–] 7toed@midwest.social 13 points 3 months ago

My work iPhone has RCS. So I believe they already have been pressured.

[–] suckmyspez@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

lol RCS doesn’t support encryption 🤣

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can send PGP blocks using whatever medium you like.😁

[–] suckmyspez@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

That’s actually a great shout! Never thought of that 🙌

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago

And this is why I dont like matrix.