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Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy asserted that no world leader has the right to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin on behalf of Ukraine.

Speaking to Le Parisien readers, Zelenskyy emphasized that Ukraine alone determines its future and any dialogue with Russia must follow a peace plan based on strength and international support.

He warned against negotiating without clear guarantees of security, highlighting the risks of Putin resuming aggression after a ceasefire.

Zelenskyy called for a strategy ensuring Ukraine's long-term stability and security, beyond NATO or EU membership timelines.

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[–] [email protected] 364 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's fucking ridiculous he has to say it out loud

[–] [email protected] 91 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Tbh a lot of people in the states are under the impression that we CAN do precisely that, because we absolutely have done in the past. But this is also kind of a whole different ballgame, in a ton of pretty crucial ways.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No world leader = hey, you orange turd, you do NOT speak on our behalf.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

But stated politically.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

this is why our teachers taught us the difference between can and may (one implies ability, the other permission) because all of south america is looking at this like "fucking right dude"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

As an American, I have always found our conduct in South America in particular to be utterly reprehensible.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Central too. Dole & United Fruit, Panama Canal, School of the Americas, just to mention a few lasting atrocities

[–] Fapp 1 points 6 months ago

As an American, I have always found our condict ~~in South America in particular~~ to be utterly reprehensible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Not only that, but we're giving fucking BILLIONS of money to Ukraine, we SHOULD have a say so in what happens...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

No we're literally not. We're giving them our stocks of older equipment that has been in warehouses. That equipment is assigned a dollar value and then it's argued over as if were stacks of cash.

Yes we're giving them money too, but when a headline says Biden authorizes $20 billion in additional aid to Ukraine, the vast majority of it is our old stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you are just funneling BILLIONS into your Military Industrial Complex, which is good for the shareholder value of the usual suspects, while dropping off your used stuff all over Europe. The US are mainly helping themselves. It just happens to also help Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The US has to funnel BILLIONS into our own military complex because A: Every single other country on Earth depends on us. B: Lots of countries don't like us.

But let me guess, you most likely live here in the US and are just enjoying the high life, while also criticizing how much you hate everything about it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Thus the ridiculous nature of the statement

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

It is, but that's what Trump did with Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yet, he expects the US to just keep cutting those checks, right?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You probably even think it's one of those overisized checks that are often shown in your TV shows, don't you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No, but I love how some of you think "We only want the US to be the World Police when it's convienant for SOME, but not others..."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck is that logic even... Do you think you should be sending equal support to russia? You probably do, given your takes...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Dude, when we help Israel, all of a sudden, America's bad... but, helping Ukraine is good because it's "stopping that evil empire Russia!" What about the evil empire of Muslim terrorists? If Israel falls, it's only a matter of time before their surrounding Muslim countries start trying to expand even more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

LMAO. Okay, I understand now, you're just trolling. Because nobody's THAT stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Spotted the liberal. "if I disagree with you, than YOU must be the stupid one!" lol...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I don't disagree with you in the same manner I don't disagree with pigeons.

Your opinion is too dumb to matter. It is not based on reality or makes any sense. I'm not discussing current events with a 3-year-olds either. Not because I disagree with them, but because their opinions are pure nonsense.

I can't make this any simpler for you, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It took you six days to come up with that? Is posting your job?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Of course no one can negotiate on behalf of Ukraine. Ukraine is holding on thanks to the support of several parties, and those parties do have the right to continue or end that support depending on the conditions they see. I hope this never happens, but If the US says they’re okay with letting Russia keep the territory its gained as long as hostilities end, then they are within their rights to withhold further arms aid on those conditions. Is that the US negotiating as if they are themselves Ukraine? No. Zelensky understands that he is existentially dependent on others. He’s just reminding them not to abuse that.