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Tbh a lot of people in the states are under the impression that we CAN do precisely that, because we absolutely have done in the past. But this is also kind of a whole different ballgame, in a ton of pretty crucial ways.

It is, but that's what Trump did with Afghanistan.

And that would likely have ended the war sooner, causing less people to die, and making Putin less likely to try something like it in the future.

Tactically, the plan is to make Russia bleed to death rather than temporarily paralyse it.

Maximizing the loss of russian life and draining the russian economy to the point that the population won't tolerate any further war is the goal. It's unfortunate that this is at the cost of ongoing war in Ukraine.

Turns out neither the west or russia gives a shit about Ukraine.

For Ukraine yes, but as far as Ukraine's allies go? Only in principle. In reality we help Ukraine because it fucks up Russia, but we don't give Ukraine the support it really needs or asks for because of [insert litany of excuses for years of delay on new weapons systems].

Proxy wars are nasty business, and Ukraine has precious little say in any of the macro decisions. Russia and Russia's ennemies collectively hold all the negociation leverage.
Zelenskyy's only hope is that domestic pressure will force the West to make a genuine effort at preserving as much of Ukraine's sovereignty as possible, hence this media intervention.

And he's right to be worried, because the situation in Palestine shows, again, that most Western governments only stick to their stated principles when it's politically convenient and shrug at literal genocide when it's not. And the Russian propaganda machine is going to work overtime to make us think that any Russian concession to Ukraine would be against European interests.

America can tell Russia Ukraine formally surrenders, and that the moon is made of cheese, it isnt going to stop anyone from fighting to protect themselves.

The fact that even western countries seem to think that there can be negotiations about the fate of Ukraine and its people, without the Ukrainian voice present, is laughable and directley supports Putin and the Russian Mafia's fantasy-narrative.

probably already has an ~~instruction~~ agreement to cease all support

must’ve read David vs. Goliath and sided with the Goliath.

Bold of you to assume that they can read, or that they have read the Bible.

In my experience not even "devout Christians" do that last one.

You need to educate yourself on the geographical foothold that Ukraine is. It is a very important part of land with mobilisation consequences. Without it, at least for now, it leaves very drastic measures as the only option.

If Ukraine loses we will have war with Russia (now able to use their resources and people) and we will have to send our soldiers.

Military analyst Anders Puck Nielsen, who was spot on with predictions when covering this war says that is we allow cease fire without security guarantees for Ukraine this ultimately will be victory for Russia.

https://youtu.be/MhpoNL1gZbw

It looks like the vast majority of people in the West don't really understand what this war is about.

Speak for yourself. A majority of Eastern Europeans see the US as a key strategic ally, and for good reason.

So what you are essentially saying is that in return for "outside assistance" Ukraine has lost it sovereignity.