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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (8 children)

What happens when Americans start posting about Hong Kong not being a part of China?

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You mean mainland Taiwan? Never heard of this China.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Judea and Samaria agree.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You know the official name of Taiwan's government is The Republic of China right?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah, that's where the previous Chinese leaders fled when the communists took over...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

That's the joke yes. Among others here. 😆

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I did, it's a superpower

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The same as already happens on lemmy.ml 😂

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Really? Let me try.

Hong Kong isn't part of China. Taiwan is an independent country.

Edit: oh, this community is in lemmy.world, not lemmy.ml. Still, for those disgruntled, report me for rule 2 & 6. I want to see how mods respond to this.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tibet is completely forgotten 😢

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Tibet was CIA propaganda. The Dalai Lama org was directly paid by the CIA

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

let's assume that statement is true, let's take the words of an anonymous internaut for truth :

CIA paid Taliban too, i remember reading. Does that make Taliban too just propaganda?

U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can't invalidate the cause.

Like, on the contrary, U.S. sponsorship can't validate a cause either.

i remember unsubscribing from political communities, why the heck am i responding to this comment at this hour. Completely futile! Will it change your mind? Do i really care what you will think about Tibet tomorrow?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Tibet was today's Uyghurs. its US Sinophobic propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.

USSC declares money is speech. You not only agree, but go further that money is truth. Naziism and Islamist fascism is truth. Democracy, and political power, is much cheaper in smaller countries made less stable with US extortion and war. Navalny caught on video soliciting MI6 for funding to destabilize Russia. Hong Kong media mogul fomenting protests because of Americas values.

The US empire's values are extortion, control, puppetry, and war whitewashed/described with a facade of liberal freedom. Every country is to be a pawn for the empire to the detriment of their population. The political establishment's disdain for Americans provides no valid expectation for the empire to promote humanism elsewhere. Just propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yes. However we can agree that all colonialism and imperialism is bad regardless of political structure in power.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

That doesn't make them propaganda. Tibet exists, I've been there. I have friends living there. The CIA paid for places to put listening equipment along China's border. They did it in Cuba too. Is Castro propaganda?

You also deny that the Uyghurs are being disappeared and "reeducated". The Uyghurs are being treated just like the First Nations people in America were. Their land and customs stand in the way of Chinese "progress"

Are you paid by China? Or are you just a useful idiot?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He's a useful idiot who hates one thing so much that he will ignore any and all good things bad about that thing, and will ignore any and all bad things about something that isn't that thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, shorthand for this is Tankie

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The reeducated thing is sinophobic propaganda bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I agree, that's why it's in quotes. In reality they're being put in camps on the border and hidden away from the media.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps

Pinyin link below

http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.htm

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

https://lemmy.world/modlog/873048?page=1&modId=107790

Whoah. You're ruining /c/latestagecapitalism.....why aren't you letting other leftists in the space?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Tibet emerged as one of countless warlord states in the chaos following the fall of the Qing, it never received international recognition and is recognized as part of China and claimed by the ROC (Taiwan). In the period when it was autonomous, it was ruled by a slaveowning theocracy with an average life expectancy in the 30's. Whipping, mutilation, and amputation were common punishments and poverty and starvation were rampant, with people frequently having to sell their kids for food. The monks and lamas, meanwhile, lived on the backs of the people in extravagant mansions with thousands of servants.

"Free Tibet" is essentially just "The South Will Rise Again" with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.

I am requesting that link in lieu of an image macro

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

For the record, that line is more in reference to people talking about things that allegedly happened on the fediverse, like, "I saw such and such user say X."

Here is a detailed account of what Tibet was like with sources. If there's a specific claim that you'd like me to clarify or back up, I'd be happy to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The slavery enjoyers are not happy with me, it seems. If only downvotes had the power to change historical facts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

极其滑稽的

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago

The same as when Americans posted about the gaza genocide on tik tok, the government cracks down.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

They'll probably get mocked and their posts removed.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The same thing that's happening right now with Americans claiming Taiwan is not part of China.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

To shreds you say?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Their account gets banned.

Same as any mention of Tienamen Square and anything else the Chinese Government deems unacceptable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

China doesn't let it's own people use these apps...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Rednote is mostly chinese users.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'd bet Chinese government WANTS people using these apps. They have established state control for rapid monitoring and data collection and rapid censorship and targeted groups for manipulation and propaganda.