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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 147 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What a disgusting shithole america has become.

[–] Entropywins@kbin.social 80 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Become? They call it the American dream because you gotta be asleep to believe it.

[–] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I miss George

[–] FunkyMonk@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The American Dream has morphed into this "anyone can be rich" idea.

When I was a kid, it was a house and two cars.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's only going to get worse. Money buys elections and Putin, along with American oligarchs have a lot to spend on getting their desired results.

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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yet it remains one of the happiest countries in the world. I'm not saying we don't have our problems, because we clearly do, but the idea that the country is a "shit hole" is just baseless nonsense.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Top 23 isnt what I would call "Happiest country in the world" Especially not for the worlds most powerful nation. So yeah, shit hole applies

Edit: For perspective, theres 190+- countries depending on whos counting, The most powerful Country on this planet doesnt even enter the top 10% of countries with the happiest citizens. At 190, the states is in the top 12%

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[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 77 points 1 year ago
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

More needs to be said about taxing the wealthy. 70% for every dollar over 10 million. Wealth tax for those hoarding wealth in stocks.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck 70. It was 91 after WWII.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I read somewhere that that was literally only for a single person. But the fact that taxes were used to aggressively trying to curb wealth hoarding is something we need to look at today

[–] MisterD@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are way too generous.

Some own islands, land, mansions, art, bonds, cars, boats.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Not generous, but not thorough. Don’t ask me to write the bill!

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

The New Bad Deal.

Rich get richer and everyone gets fucked on their taxes while dealing with crazy high inflation.

Thanks GOP! YOU GUYS REALLY KNOW HOW TO GOVERN

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[–] SpacePirate@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 year ago (8 children)

It’s not like these billionaires are spending this money, so it’s just been invested for 7 years. What’s the old adage, Rule of 72? Given a 10% rate of return, they would be expected to double their money in…

…seven years.

While the tax policies certainly aren’t helping the majority of the population, let’s not pretend compound interest isn’t a thing.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

It's not as if that makes it any better. Tax policy should be designed to actively combat the inequality increase created by compound interest, not go along with it.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet poor people keep voting for him, thinking that the used car ~~salesman~~ clown will make them rich

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Used car clown? Sounds scary

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[–] WhatsThePoint@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Till we close the loop holes for these billionaire foundations buying elections (i.e. the Koch network) - billionaires will continue to tip the scales their way. Courts also need to be 10 year appointments, not life time.

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump is such a shit stain

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting for that trickle down.

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[–] KittyCat@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What we need is a controlling asset tax, 99.9% tax on the value of assets controlled beyond $100m

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

0.1% of a billion dollars is still 10m. Since we're on track to see our first trillionaires soon, I'd argue we need a 100% tax bracket as well. 0.1% of a trillion is 10 billion.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

0.1% of a billion dollars is still 10m.

It's 1m.

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[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

How likely is it that the trump tax giveaway was all about FUNDING the Fascist takeover of America ? Because they wouldn't have had the money otherwise

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

It's not just billionaires. If you put any amount of money into the S&P500 in Jan 1 2017, it would be worth more than twice as much today.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (11 children)

But is it really fair that a person with 50 million can turn that into 100 million, whereas most people can turn at most $5,000 into $10,000?

Earning $5,000 over 7 years is basically worthless.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The median 40 year old has retirement savings of $45K, not $5K. And the median 70 year old has savings of $200K. In both groups, doubling the amount is quite significant.

[–] Crowfiend@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Using median makes it a loaded statistic skewed in favor of the minority (in this case, the wealthy).

Over half the country is living paycheck-to-paycheck, so that median number is already in the 'well-off' category by default, making them irrelevant to the main point of discussion.

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[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But what for? Even with the toys of millionaires (yachts, villas), over a few 100 millions it's only a number.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They don’t just buy toys. They buy laws, politicians, service, deference, control, luxury, immunity…

When you have that much money everything is for sale and people will kiss your ass to sell it to you.

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[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Why hasn’t Biden done anything about the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act?

Dems had house majority when he started and he could have tried to push changes through like Trump did.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because he isn't a dictator.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but what has Biden done about the heat death of the universe? I'm just saying, the man is the President.

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[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Congress is more in charge of taxes and budgets, not the president. However, it would seem Democrats in general want to use this for the upcoming elections (along with nearly everything they promised last election).

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