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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

Inconveniencing protests that go unrecognized or are criminalized lead to the next step: industrial sabotage.

Maybe Google needs to lose a few servers to captured NSO malware.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well they actually changed the motto because "don't be evil" was too ambiguous. The motto now is "do the right thing". It's now okay to be evil, as long as you're "doing the right thing".

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Use two tildes (~) before and after:

Google: don't be ~~evil~~

Google: don't be ~~evil~~

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

more like google: ~~dont~~ be evil

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't know, I kind of like the idea of someone deciding their company motto is to not exist at all.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't be? Evil! A la Lionel Hutz

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Good luck with that sentiment. People tried to boycott products made or designed in Israel and then realized it's near impossible. Edit: Found a list

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That list is not "products made or designed in Israel". That list is just companies that support Israel.

I just don't want anyone to have the false impression that a relationship with Israel is necessary. It definitely is not.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's impossible to target all of them, yes. But that's why BDS creates a targeted list of the worst offenders to concentrate consumer boycott pressure.

Currently the BDS list includes 8 targets, including HP, Sabra, Siemens, Puma, and Soda stream. https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

do steal them though. stealing them is good.

edit: this got down votes? let me explain: if you just dont buy them, someone else can. If you steal them, then whatever middleman spends the cost but doesn't make the profit. if lots of people steal them, the insurance on that cargo/merchandise goes up. it gets more expensive and eventually market forces mean those products won't get stocked, when theres any alternative.

which means they get less. you not having to go without, or even making a profit, is just a nice bonus.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who would've thought an evil company would mistreat its employees. They literally work for a corporation whose main business involves violating your human rights, if they really care they wouldn't have worked there in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Instead they should just work for all those good companies that's everywhere under capitalism. Workers don't have a say in company policy and companies are as bad as they can be. The fact that nestle murder more people than Fazer , isn't about that one is more "evil" than the other, it's what they can get away with. Evil is a childish concept.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

From "Don't be evil" to now, "Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Last time I heard a line like that is by Dark Helmet in Space Balls.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Seems misleading, as I highly doubt they were charged with "protesting contract with Israel". Is that a misdemeanor?

Also love that Google workers suddenly grew a conscience

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's a trespassing charge from what I could find. Although there are laws against boycotting Israel

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/feb/21/us-supreme-court-arkansas-anti-boycott-israel-law

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Thats so wild

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

The anti BDS laws are relevant to companies, not workers. Though it is still hilarious to me that we can't have religious freedom because companies have a first amendment right however they can't exercise that right in regards to Israel.

The GOP is just so transparently making shit up as they go along for their own convenience.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yes. All 28 of them. Out of what, 180,000-ish?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Does this mean there are new open positions at Google?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Hmm, these people got arrested for being against genocide. Sounds like a great place for me to work!"

I sure hope you're joking

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You may underestimate the ongoing desperation for paid full time work with benefits in the US.

A lot of folk are one paycheck, one tragedy, one road accident or severe sickness away from homelessness.

And homelessness is already criminalized in some counties.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Well, I probably cannot get in there anyway so it's a bit moot. Plus it would mean a major relocation. But yeah, I'd happily work on an Israel contract.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Wow, that's disgusting. Have you no morals? Shame on you.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

$200k a year and a pizza party are what his morals are worth, apparently.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Friendly reminder: There will always be scabs

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

position to be removed as downsizing opportunity following termination

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, a genuine genocide supporter, would you look at that.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I am seeing a lot of comments on here but the context not being mentioned is that they were protesting while clocked in or working on the clock.

Google is technically in authority to do that. The article is worded a bit out of context to make the act of protesting an a big company we all find to be evil more evil for letting employees go that were wasting company time.

I get it before you even type it I understand Google isn't short on money and the time portion won't effect them but has the employees protested while clocked out this would have been a less likely outcome and I also get it, "yeah they would have fired them anyway." Sure believe what you want but it doesn't take away that Google had the authority to fire while the employees were in their time no matter what they were protesting. If I did this at my job and was getting paid they would fire me as well.

EDIT: Lemmy is Reddit but it's full of users in denial.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Confidentially incorrect: at Google there is no clock in and no clock out (for employees, contractors is different). At Google you can work 1h per day or 20h per day you earn the same. Performances are assessed on the output not on the hour worked.

So, no, find another reason for which Google is right. Popular topic is “they disrupt other people work by making noise” (of course people can work on a laptop in another place because there is generally no special equipment at the desk but details) or “they destroyed properties… you cannot see in the picture but they destroyed millions of precious bacteria on the floor”

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the point of protest. The rules are made to keep the status quo, not be good. And some rules suck balls.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

does your job support a genocidal theocratic ethnostate?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wouldn't be a very effective protest if they did it on their own time lol

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