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Ex-Tesla employee reveals shocking details on worker conditions: 'You get fired on the spot.'::Tesla CEO Elon Musk's ‘ultra hardcore’ work culture is revealed to have led to long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees.

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[–] [email protected] 208 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd consider it "shocking" more like "on par"

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right?! It's like the guy literally modeled himself after Trump from The Apprentice.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

He's so dumb he probably thinks Trump is a good businessman.

[–] [email protected] 193 points 2 years ago (36 children)

As a western European, to me the problem isn’t that they’re fired on the spot, but that a company can actually do that. You guys should’ve fought for your rights.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (4 children)

80 years of living in the church of capitalism will do that to you.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Not to mention protesting likely means becoming homeless. It means losing insurance, it means losing you car insurance and likely paying a hefty premium when you can get it again. It means losing access to food, Healthcare. It means risking being barred from future employment.

So let's vote? Well turns out your district is shaped like a contorted snake, and unless you convince 60% of people who will vote for any loony who hates the same people they do, to help their neighbor for once, well you're SOL.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Welcome to 'at-will employment' America, where you can fire anyone for any reason as long as they can't prove it was because you are one of the protected classes under the Civil Rights Act (does not include LGBT+ people). They can literally fire you because they don't like your ears.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago

USA. The no vacation nation.

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I've never spoken with a Tesla employee, current or former, who hasn't corroborated this information about working conditions. Doesn't matter if you are a line worker in the factory or an engineer in the design offices, you are expected to put work above all else, keep your nose down and your mouth shut.

I'll never buy a Tesla because of the shit that I've heard about how they treat their employees there, let alone that dipshit Musk spouting off about full self driving and never following through.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Yep, he got Tesla where it was quickly by squeezing everything he could out of the talent that was hired by the original founders. They got a relatively decent car out of it initially (compared to the competition, which was basically just the Nissan Leaf), but now they're probably struggling to retain/find talent to continue running the company and designing new cars.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He also hired people to fudge the fucking numbers. At one point he had more venture capital in pure slush money than the entire US automobile market had in their banks.

There was never any reason for that other than defrauding investors.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Elongated Muskrat is the weirdest hype beast I’ve ever seen.

He stumbles his way through sentences, has zero confidence when speaking, and ummm and uhhhs like a college freshman doing his first presentation that he prepared the morning of.

And yet, he’s generated billions of dollars in funding based purely off of hype for things that he, by track record, only has about a 10% chance of delivering.

It’s bizarre.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ditto. I've seen lots of rumors that the software stack is an utter mess as a result. Musk's Uber librarian attitude means he only ever gets junior devs.

The pay has been below market for a while now. He's tried selling "on the mission" which is totally spoiled now.

I expect other manufacturers are going to catch up quick.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 2 years ago (7 children)

I don't understand why anyone idolizes this bastard. There are too many bootlickers out there, which is why nothing ever changes and assholes like him can continue to exploit people.

Tesla is also known for its shit build quality. So why not buy an EV from practically anyone else?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Especially now that actual car companies are coming up with their electric models.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

Honestly, has musk ever done anything useful other than just being the money he was born into?

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (16 children)
[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is. Most states are so fucked up they have barely any employment protection laws

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

And some are even trying further reduce the little remaining legislation that deters child labor exploitation.

But they don't bat an eye using the same children as a scapegoat to push through intrusive laws, under the illusion of protecting the children 😭

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nothing shocking if you kept up with the Xitter debacle.

Elmo has been firing anyone with even the slightest hint of critique.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago

Is this actually shocking or does this make perfect sense to anyone who has paid even a shred of attention to Musk's manbaby tantrums?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

but but but elon sleeps on the floor!!!!!1!! hes so hardworking when hes tweeting literally all day and night!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

long hours, unsafe conditions, and harassment for employees

He's racing Jeff Bezos to the bottom.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

should we start patitioning that elon musk not be involved with any companies. everything ive heard about him makes me think he has no respect for us peasants.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

He's a billionaire, probably thinks he pays us peasants too much for what we deliver, and would absolutely replace us for slaves if he could

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago

It's not that shocking; I read a positive profile on Musk almost 10 years ago where he nevertheless fired an employee on the spot for not immediately knowing the answer to some random question Musk had for him.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

If you are suprised about Elon, then it's your fault. He has always been like this.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (10 children)

How is this legal? Does the US have zero employee protection regulation?

If this happened in NZ, the business owner would be put through the ringer and it would be front page news (it's been front page plenty here) for unfair dismissal.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The laws are there, sure. But if you become a corporate "whistle blower" you're not likely to get a job again. And the company will just drown the accusations in fines and litigation and nothing changes because we're poor and solo, because we're not unionized because if we try we get fired (again, illegally).

Sigh.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Textbook narcissist play. Expect everyone around you stand at attention to make your dreams happen. Maybe if you offered tangible rewards like bonuses and pay increases instead of vague promises of "exceptional reward" then people would work harder for you. Also, studies prove time and again that working excessive hours leads to diminishing returns. Also, throwing a fucking baby tantrum when a burned-out employee makes a mistake is a great way to lose talent.

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